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Jul 17 2025 10:04am
This person I'm quoting here doesn't understand American politics. Trump is the most skilled media manipulater in politics right now. Has nothing to do with skin/gender or democrat policies. Americans don't even understand Trump's platform, they vote based on influencers and the media, which Trump dominates

You can pretty much ignore his policies and what he says, because they're irrelevant, he doesn't keep his word. He will simply do whatever someone pays him to do. Epstein files won't release because people are paying him. Once you understand he's working for money first, everything he does makes more sense.

He doesn't care about you. He wants more money and power



That isn't a defense at all. This just sounds like you're struggling to accept reality

Nobody here knows what Trump does in his personal life. You seem to accept that on the surface he appears to be doing inappropriate things. It's odd and suspicious that you are trying to justify his behavior without knowing what he is actually doing


No where near as odd as an adult ASSUMING another adult is a predator without proof. That’s the type of stuff high schoolers who love gossip do.

Fact is we can sit here and sling mud all we want but NO ONE knows whether he was a child predator or not. Same way no one knows that about any other president. The ONLY reason you are trying to argue is because I’m more “conservative” than you are. I didn’t vote Red so your attempt at just trying to throw rocks is irrelevant. I’m trying to say that whether it’s Biden or Trump, without proof just makes speculators look og or.
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Jul 17 2025 10:07am
No where near as odd as an adult ASSUMING another adult is a predator without proof. That’s the type of stuff high schoolers who love gossip do.

Fact is we can sit here and sling mud all we want but NO ONE knows whether he was a child predator or not. Same way no one knows that about any other president. The ONLY reason you are trying to argue is because I’m more “conservative” than you are. I didn’t vote Red so your attempt at just trying to throw rocks is irrelevant. I’m trying to say that whether it’s Biden or Trump, without proof just makes speculators look og or.


I didn't say any of these words you're putting in my mouth. You sound like you're trying to be a victim

Trump may or may not be a child predator. What I am saying is I would not be defending him right now
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Jul 17 2025 10:23am
I didn't say any of these words you're putting in my mouth. You sound like you're trying to be a victim

Trump may or may not be a child predator. What I am saying is I would not be defending him right now


I’m defending parents in general who tell their kids they are handsome or beautiful. Not Trump in particular per say. I’m simply saying millions of people do it.

This post was edited by T3XBOT on Jul 17 2025 10:42am
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Jul 17 2025 10:47am
I’m defending parents in general who tell their kids they are handsome or beautiful. Not Trump in particular per say. I’m simply saying millions of people do it.


No you're being disingenuous. Millions of people aren't best friends with Epstein for 15 years, they don't have sexual relationships with a prostitute while married and then pay lawyers to cover it up, they don't have a long history of lies and fraud that match or exceed anyone in the swamp. He's the swamp lord

If Trump had done nothing wrong ever and this was the first scandal, then I would agree with you. The issue is that there has been a pattern of problematic scandals for years
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Jul 17 2025 11:10am
No you're being disingenuous. Millions of people aren't best friends with Epstein for 15 years, they don't have sexual relationships with a prostitute while married and then pay lawyers to cover it up, they don't have a long history of lies and fraud that match or exceed anyone in the swamp. He's the swamp lord

If Trump had done nothing wrong ever and this was the first scandal, then I would agree with you. The issue is that there has been a pattern of problematic scandals for years


l’m not going to judge an adult on the other adults they sleep with. Not my business. It’s really judgmental and just below me. Especially since I ain’t no choir boy Christian goody goody myself.

Is he a lying, deceitful person with no morals? Yes. Is every politician in the current US also lying, deceitful with no morals? Yes.

I find your targeting of Trump while not targeting others cherry picking. My last 3 candidates I voted for were Johnson, Jorgenson and Oliver I’m not wearing 3D glasses and hope for something better.

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Jul 17 2025 11:22am
Just to let you know, I am an ethnic Han Chinese born and breed in Singapore.. So I am considered the minority if I am in the US.
As an Oriental Conservative. I have no issues with LGBTQ plus before the past 8 years.

It is fairly simple, we have a fair share of trans in Singapore, we never had a problem with them as a matter of fact we are quite friendly with them.
There is even more Trans in Thailand so as to speak and we visit Thailand for Holidays very often.

The Trans movement in USA is not a Trans movement if I were to be precise, they literally fucked up the whole thing for LGBTQ plus. Those that we see coming out from USA are literally Mentally ILL who are up to no good with insidious intent.
The wokeness part , I don't have to much to say, but my my Ex Prime minister Lee Hsien Loong said it very well, in a very polite and respectful manner.

Let me quote him word by word.




In the West, there is a movement called Wokeness, where you are super sensitive about other people's issues, and you become hyper-sensitive when other people somehow or other say things or mention things
or refer to you without the respect which you or your super sub group feel you are entitled to.

It leads to very extreme attitudes and social norms particularly in some academic institutions, universities.
You talk about safe spaces, You talk about appropriate pronouns.
You talk about " I am about to say something that might be offensive to you, if you don't want to hear it, perhaps you would like to leave now"

And life becomes very burdensome, And I don't think we want to go in that direction.
It does not make us a more resilient , cohesive society with a strong sense of solidarity. We must be more Robust.


And this is exactly what I feel.


I was gonna respond, but dont want a 5 paragraph response back.

This post was edited by Vaatu on Jul 17 2025 11:25am
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Don't


don't what ?
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Jul 17 2025 11:35am
This person I'm quoting here doesn't understand American politics. Trump is the most skilled media manipulater in politics right now. Has nothing to do with skin/gender or democrat policies. Americans don't even understand Trump's platform, they vote based on influencers and the media, which Trump dominates

You can pretty much ignore his policies and what he says, because they're irrelevant, he doesn't keep his word. He will simply do whatever someone pays him to do. Epstein files won't release because people are paying him. Once you understand he's working for money first, everything he does makes more sense.

He doesn't care about you. He wants more money and power


YOU don't understand American politics, Democrats and MSM literally teamed up to influence Americans using a smear campaign and a whole bunch of lawsuits with only one goal in mind --> removing Trump from the ballot and they almost succeeded

Try again champ :banana:

This post was edited by Djunior on Jul 17 2025 11:35am
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Jul 17 2025 11:54am
yeah, he's cooked


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