If the west actually wanted to close our borders, do you think we couldn't repel literal waves of thousands of humans? If they all collectively decided to take boats to China and try to wash up on the bohai bay and stroll into bejing, do you think China would let them?
They'd just get shot

Our immigration crisis is entirely a crisis of intent, not capability. The 'way' exists, the 'will' doesn't. We can tell you whether there are any polyps in the colons of the January 6th defendants in their own special jail wing, but we can't tell you the immigration status of Pedro folding my burrito at lunch. The actual logistics of securing our borders, even mass deportations, aren't particularly challenging, not from a technical standpoint. Certainly from a political one.

Not really, they will collect them and sell their organs probably, don't let the good ones go to waste. Furthermore there will be an amount that can be Sinicize and those that can be re educated and those with high IQ can still be a good contribution to society.

ahh yes so now we're pretending security agents shooting people at the border for a deterrent will go over? no chance, it would be an international scandal in 2024.



this is exactly correct, its a crisis of will. and that will takes time to change, in the USA it took about 4 years and hundreds of thousands of migrants. still take a strawpoll of US citizens and you'll find many still dont even understand the numbers, most likely think we have 10k-20k migrants per year, they dont realize thats more like a daily total. they'd be against catch and release if they knew how it works, but they dont know. the media has run a very effective smokescreen on the biden whitehouse's absolutely terrible policy. then the mouthpieces for the alarm are alex jones, tucker carlson, and trump. people many just discount out of hand. but that's how it starts, many of them were also against govt covid policy and vaccines, look at how that moved mainstream. same for inflation. like european fashion they're just a year or two ahead of the US general population.

thats the crux of EU migrant policy. during the crisis the will wasnt there. now it is, but time machines dont exist. the will is rarely there in real time.

The invention of the machine gun solved this problem nearly a century ago, and that's not even scratching the surface of military AOE capabilities now, it just requires the political will and stomach. And political will is certainly lacking.

Even in the ancient world this was solved with high walls and archers, like in Troy

This post was edited by El1te on Aug 13 2024 09:16am

They'll shoot high to try to avoid damaging those precious organs! And they are warm bodies, best to smother them in an incapacitating gas and use them for labour

This is why China is winning, they are ultra efficient

This post was edited by El1te on Aug 13 2024 09:21am

Someone from China told me the Chinese government is cracking down people leaving its country, penalizing people for leaving.


China is losing big time.


This post was edited by Tarisus on Aug 13 2024 10:01am

For a US citizen to bring an immigrant into American soil, it requires fees, 1 year of wait, proving wage above poverty line, background checks and interviews. I’d imagine it’s similar in UK.

But illegals just walk right in. UK has right to be mad and should definitely be protesting.

As long as there's some border fortification in those areas without natural obstacles, rubber bullets, tasers or tear gas will absolutely be enough to stop and/or deter individual migrants or small groups.

The other scenario are situations in which very large mobs of illegal migrants are trying to storm the border using sheer violence. I don't think we're that far off from the point where the populations of NA or Europe would be ready to stomach shooting that kind of attacker with live ammunition.

How? They're winning on all fronts - they're seizing the opportunity that America has squandered - brokering peace throughout the world, have a unified and united society, are actually taking action to deal with radical Islam within their territory, continue to expand their economic influence in Africa (again, squandered by the Europeans), they are rapidly becoming extremely educated (have you seen the natural sciences in university lately? Chinese dominated on our own doorstep). Soon they'll control Taiwan & related technologies there. Japan and South Korea are in the midst of a population die off and demographic crisis which will be solved with Chinese immigration & integration, increasing their control over those nations. They have no war or migrant problems which bog us down. They are re-establishing friendly relationships with Russia. Their women are joining with competent white men from the Americas who have been disillusioned by modern delusional and vapid white women (whom form the basis of woke culture) to further increase their influence on the Pacific coast. Chinese influence is only expanding, not contracting!

That's what I call winning. Only a fool listens to anti-China regime propaganda.

This post was edited by El1te on Aug 13 2024 10:47am

The Chinese economy, housing and car market is doing extremely bad. They are struggling and asking for West to make investments in China.

Huge numbers of malls are closing but then again, it’s happening in some places in US too.