What's your take then as to why the field is moving the way that it is despite the "dearth of research showing otherwise". I smell Globohomo conspiracy incoming.

Do you have any sources for this? That's a highly non-trivial claim, basically asserting that children who want to cut their dicks or boobs off would be mostly fine and mentally stable if only the evil, bigoted society didn't get in their way.



Goom already linked you with UN studies showing that in this case, "the most efficacious treatment available" actually isn't all that efficacious. Other than that, I stand by what I said previously: I support social transitioning if really rigorous standards are adhered to, but I do not support cutting body parts off or pumping hormones into children. That kind of stuff can wait until the patient comes of age.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 13 2024 04:14pm

Yes. Read your own articles....



I see you all pivoting to conversations about children, but this argument hasn't focused on that at all, given that it was about whether being transgender is itself a mental illness.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Feb 13 2024 04:27pm

We have a great wealth of evidence that gender surgeries/HRT aren't effective and we have a great wealth of evidence that academia and particularly psychiatric medicine have been taken over by militant activists pushing a trans agenda, and you're asking me why we're still pushing modern day lobotomies.

As I said, I look to the dynamics of systems. My own unapologetic bias is for determinism, I skip to the mechanism of action section of papers and use the rest to wipe my ass. Discrete and explicable causes and effects, premises that are falsifiable in reproducible experiments. All that gets clouded by the devil that is statistics, and thrown completely out the window when we deal with infinitely complex systems we cannot understand like the black box of the human brain. Our ancient forefathers who held a shred of integrity for their work realized that in the absence of provable outcomes, one must not intervene destructively and codified their own humility. At least modern medicine can prove elements of microbiology, but blue haired feminazis screeching their dogma about cutting dicks off kids to save them from themselves, is no more credible to me than pontificating holy men screeching about cutting the heads off heretics to save them from themselves. To wit, ya'll need jesus

So WHO is making the below guideline in the face of a lack of evidence?



https://www.who.int/news/item/28-06-2023-who-announces-the-development-of-the-guideline-on-the-health-of-trans-and-gender-diverse-people

I'm not a physician or psychologist, I don't have access to the full version of these non-open-access articles; they're outside of my own field.


"Suggesting that symptoms might be secondary" is a far cry from your claim that "symptoms are - and are largely - due to..."

And like I've said before: "improving" is a very unspecific term, without putting some concrete numbers to it, it can refer to anything between gigantic improvements and absolutely marginal ones.




I've already addressed this: no, being transgender is not a mental illness in and off itself - but it frequently comes along with one.

conservatives are so desperate to blame tragedies on trans people that they completely missed this person was NOT trans


pathetic trash

I gave you plenty of examples and zero had to do with children.....

You couldn't respond to me in any meaningful way and 12 hours a week I go do a shift at a "house" for people with all mental disabilities/addictions under the sun.

&&& yet when I said transgender people became violent physically and verbally in just the first 6 months of this pilot program(my sister runs) your just like.....

"Sorry to hear that".

Sorry to hear you make excuses for the only group "drop kicking/spitting on/ and threatening to kill everyone"

When your state creates a program specifically designed for LGBTQ+ like mine(Chicago, Illinois) go volunteer there and witness the DARK SIDE of transgenderism.

Pretend it ain't so bad all you want.

Get with the times and use sci-hub. Paste nearly any DOI and unlock full articles at a click of a button: https://sci-hub.se/

There is no way respond to you in a way that is meaningful. Thank you for the anecdotes. Stories sure are interesting.