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Mar 28 2023 09:42am
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 28 2023 10:35am)
And they're still far more deadly in general, even on a 1:1 comparison basis, look at V-Tech where he wasn't gunning down defenseless toddlers with nowhere to run. Handguns are more maneuverable in enclosed spaces where rifles are unwieldy, harder to be disarmed, easier to shoot someone who would try to grapple with you. Rifles have a range for efficiency, the Las Vegas shooting shows that limit. The kind of urban and in-door environments we're putting this disproportionate focus on, are the areas where handguns already kill thousands of times more people. Heck, rifle deaths become almost statistically insignificant.

But this is all a tired back and forth that's been done to death in every gun control debate.
My real question after all of this is, if the left is so serious about curbing gun violence, why wouldn't they push for actually enforcing gun laws? What's the point of passing new laws if you won't enforce them anyway?


the handgun vs rifle debate in the context of school shootings is like asking if a hot machete or hot katana go through butter more efficiently.

if we want to stop school shootings without butchering 2a, we need to filet 1a, and pass a law making it illegal to publish the face, name, manifesto, message, or social media posts of any shooter post shooting.
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Mar 28 2023 09:47am
Quote (Handcuffs @ Mar 27 2023 09:58pm)
Interesting. How do you personally define "violence"?


I agree with the definition that comes up when you google 'violence'

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behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.
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Mar 28 2023 09:50am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Mar 28 2023 10:32am)
Painted lady


that was well done.
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Mar 28 2023 10:11am
This topis is pretty shameful for the right wing pard fanatics: these mass shootings in U.S school are almost 100% done by males and now you can see a biological female transgender who did it ... like a male... Right ?

Quote (Santara @ 28 Mar 2023 09:10)
We are talking about that. You were trying to restrict it further, to just schools.


I found stats with schools only but we could add places like work/office by ex-employees, or others no-money/drug related shootings (ie the young guy shooting blacks in a church etc).
All these are greatly favorized by firearms availability. Imho you only have to say: "this is what we pay in exhange of our freedom to bear arms".
Just accept it, not a big deal vs opioids or diabete.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Mar 28 2023 10:12am
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Mar 28 2023 10:17am
At least the POTUS is taking this seriously, no, wait, he opened up the press conference about a school shooting by by a trans terrorist resulting in multiple dead children by making jokes about ice cream. Finally, tHe AdUlTs ArE BaCk In ChArGe
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Mar 28 2023 10:52am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 28 2023 05:24pm)
Yes someone has to "do the job of storming enemy strong points"
When you have a madcunt dictator running a shit show of a paper tiger military :rofl:

Meanwhile in the democratic EU and NATO countries. Nobody is having to storm any strongpoints, but thats just a coincidence right? :rolleyes:
Maybe its because we all froze to death this winter or something? Yeah probably that.


Another quality shit post, lol

We're talking about Ukraine right now...
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Mar 28 2023 10:53am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Mar 28 2023 07:56am)
Many people already don't want either drag queens or transgender people around their children, is that a sign of oppression? And what specifically have these laws changed that amounts to oppression in your opinion?

The main reason I don’t take those claims at face value anymore is because since trans issues have become a popular topic I have seen similar language used constantly to describe things most adults would view as an annoyance.


Saying that one believes X kind of people should not be allowed children where X is merely an immutable characteristic is often a kind of oppression.
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Mar 28 2023 11:02am
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I agree with the definition that comes up when you google 'violence'


It strikes me odd to only limit 'violence' to examples in which physical force is exerted directly from Person A onto Person B.
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Mar 28 2023 11:03am
Quote (Handcuffs @ Mar 28 2023 10:02am)
It strikes me odd to only limit 'violence' to examples in which physical force is exerted directly from Person A onto Person B.


not just persons, destruction of objects/property is also violence per the definition
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Mar 28 2023 11:11am
Quote (Handcuffs @ Mar 28 2023 01:53pm)
Saying that one believes X kind of people should not be allowed children where X is merely an immutable characteristic is often a kind of oppression.


Dressing in drag is not an immutable characteristic though. I view drag queens as entirely different than trans people, drag is a form of entertainment/artistic expression whereas transgenderism is an attempt to literally become the opposite gender and to be viewed as such by society.

I think equating the two confuses an already confusing situation, the same way trans issues being inextricably linked to the rest of the LGB community makes it a much more difficult topic to discuss.
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