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#21991

Jul 27 2018 04:53pm

Quote (EndlessSky @ 27 Jul 2018 16:39)

How many points did the DOW go up after Trump won? Derp

& Dont even try to play that game. You literally have only one opinion in all of your posts

How much credit do you give Obama for the economic recovery of the Great Recession? How much credit do you give Trump for the current economy?

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Jul 27 2018 05:00pm

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 27 2018 03:49pm)

well, the truth is: politically, Trump lives and falls by the economy. if we enter a sharp recession, he is toast, politically. and if the current boom continues, he will be very hard to beat in 2020 (unless Mueller finds the smoking gun).

also keep in mind the long-term implications: ginsburg is what, 86? and breyer is also over 80 years old. if Trump gets reelected, he has another 6.5 years in office from now on. given their age, chances would be high that Trump is able to replace another liberal supreme court judge with a staunch conservative, which would shift the SCOTUS, and in turn the entire country, firmly to the right for decades.

since an economic downturn inevitably will come sooner or later, I can actually understand the sentiment of liberals who prefer the recession to come before Trump gets reelected. in the end, it's not about eternal boom vs eternal crisis, it's simply a question of the timing of the impending recession.

Economy is always a big part ofc but outside of that Democrats are going to need to get more likeable asap

The Republicans are reliable voters but the younger folks tend to need more motivation and inspiration to show up

The old dems are boring unlikable robots from a different time and the new farther left younger people are deer in the headlights whenever taken outside of their berniesque talking points

Trump is taking hits from all over the place but he is still strong and I believe stronger with the voters. He's doing a lot of what conservatives want and that transfers him from benefit of the doubt candidate to delivering politician in a party that reliably votes

Personally I think they will be able to push the downturn into his early second term when shit starts hitting the fan.

I think the only thing that will stop him is if he turns out getting nailed on something with the investigation which I have serious doubts about, including obstruction which he probably actually is most guilty of

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Jul 27 2018 05:05pm

Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 27 2018 02:39pm)

How many points did the DOW go up after Trump won? Derp

& Dont even try to play that game. You literally have only one opinion in all of your posts

Listen jerky, when I listen to NPR and they go hard left it bothers me. I call it as I see it.

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Jul 27 2018 05:15pm

Quote (Beowulf @ 28 Jul 2018 01:00)

Economy is always a big part ofc but outside of that Democrats are going to need to get more likeable asap

The Republicans are reliable voters but the younger folks tend to need more motivation and inspiration to show up

The old dems are boring unlikable robots from a different time and the new farther left younger people are deer in the headlights whenever taken outside of their berniesque talking points

Trump is taking hits from all over the place but he is still strong and I believe stronger with the voters. He's doing a lot of what conservatives want and that transfers him from benefit of the doubt candidate to delivering politician in a party that reliably votes

Personally I think they will be able to push the downturn into his early second term when shit starts hitting the fan.

I think the only thing that will stop him is if he turns out getting nailed on something with the investigation which I have serious doubts about, including obstruction which he probably actually is most guilty of

Agreed. To the bolded part, I would add that a lot of the younger democratic candidates are too far to the left for the country at-large. being a "democratic socialist" might be a draw in some 80% non-white, inner city, D+51 district in new york or san francisco, but not if you're competing for statewide or nationwide office (governor, senator, president).

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Jul 27 2018 05:20pm

Quote (ThatAlex @ Jul 27 2018 06:53pm)

How much credit do you give Obama for the economic recovery of the Great Recession? How much credit do you give Trump for the current economy?

The average recession heals in eight months. Obamas never healed so suck it

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jul 27 2018 05:20pm

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Jul 27 2018 05:22pm

Quote (Brian_D @ Jul 27 2018 07:05pm)

Listen jerky, when I listen to NPR and they go hard left it bothers me. I call it as I see it.

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#21997

Jul 27 2018 05:24pm

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 27 2018 04:15pm)

they won't get much done on a large stage

Bernie was alright in reality but his own words would prevent him from being able to do as good as he could which is why I like him where he is at

I think he does good work and I value his contribution to politics as a person and voice with some form of power

The reality is he is a pragmatic left dude that isn't nearly as scary as the right thinks/pretends but is definitely gonna let down his base that doesn't know any better about politics because they are new to following and that's alright

He's also probably the other person other than possibly Biden that could probably beat Trump or at least would make it more of a race than these other possible candidates at this time

Bernie isn't bad but he put himself in a tough position of being the left hero (where reality will let them down) and making it too easy to be the villain of the right where socialism of any kind in rhetoric (whether true or not) is still a silver bullet

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Jul 27 2018 05:35pm

Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 27 2018 04:22pm)

:rofl:

Wonderful response. I counter you with a :drool: