Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 23 2020 03:10pm)
There is a difference between voluntary giving and someone forcing you to do so that's quite obvious and Christians decades after decades have been giving billions all over the world, more than any other single group.
Court cases, conservatives justices, etc, are not fluff and no one is waiving any white flag. You have this tendency of trying to divorce Trump of any good for a group and just end up looking like an idiot. Similarly to how to you tried arguing for pages that Trump had nothing to do with the Israel UAE deal only for a week later it's him brokering and welcoming Bahrain in on it. If you don't already feel dumb, you should because his administration has been central to the deal and even Pelosi and Trump haters acknowledged it.
So continue to focus on his tweets and him fucking whores 20 years ago as the litmus test for your standard of approval of why Christians shouldn't support him as if any one gives a fuck about your opinion, meanwhile some of us can focus on tangible legal battles and acts being passed.
ty for the lesson on charity, i didnt realize people can help others with anything but taxes..... i totally havent been discounting atheists in pard for a decade with my charitable works as a christain and examples of food drives and clothing donations from my church. no, never.
conservative justices are great, but you're still missing my point. the promise of repealing Roe and the "war on religion" are largely myths, and using them to garner votes is typical political hackery. if ur voting for a watered down version, good on you, you're smarter than the herd of idiots who buy that shit at ticket price and truly believe in it.
as to the UAE-Israeli peace treaty, as i said all along peace talks were already well on their way years before Trump took office. my 2 mains criticisms were asking 1.) what Trump did specifically to get in on the deal, brokers dont usually walk in mid deal (aka what did we give to make it happen, if anything. every peace deal in the ME generally involves US weapons deals and/or promises to hold nations like Iran accountable with force that i dont like as an anti-war person), and 2.) that UAE and Israel were already largely not in a conflict most people picture when they hear "peace in the ME". UAE is not a border country to Israel nor is Bahrain, so the type of historical settlement/border disputes and active war that people think of isn't what this deal is. i still hold those criticisms, while also believing a radicalizing Iran played a far greater role than anyone in the Trump regime. if u still believe he was central lmk what specifically that means? did they hand craft the table where negotiations happened? what specific service did they provide that Obama wasn't already doing?
and sure, strawman with litmus test accusations when ive said many times now it was just a conversation starter and that i have a broad range of reasons christains shouldnt support him. in any case, a tangential conversation of support vs idolizing him is valid. i see memes about him being God's chosen potus and literally sent from above all the damn time on my facebook feed. he's literally a prophet to some.
This post was edited by thesnipa on Sep 23 2020 02:27pm