You are blindly cherry picking your favourite bedtime story over other bed time stories and think you are being impartial.

Looks like you are going in circles and not supporting your claims (as usual)

For instance how does Tacitus reference jesus? Let's see what he actually wrote as opposed what you think he wrote.

Sure—here’s what Tacitus actually wrote in Annals 15.44:

‘Christus, from whom the name [Christians] had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of… Pontius Pilate…’

That directly confirms that Jesus Christ existed, was executed under Pontius Pilate, and that the Christian movement followed him—written by a non-Christian Roman historian.

That’s exactly what an independent historical reference looks like. It’s not supposed to confirm every belief (like the resurrection), just the underlying historical facts.

Dismissing that as ‘hearsay’ would mean throwing out most of ancient history, because that’s how historical records work.

For someone who complains excessively about the context of the bible when contradictions are pointed out you sure did just skim over entire passage and taken 0 context or even basic analytical skills.
You didn't even quote the entire passage.


But all human efforts, all the lavish gifts of the emperor, and the propitiations of the gods, did not banish the sinister belief that the conflagration was the result of an order. Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind.



Here is the context Nero was blaming Christians (Christus) for a fire in Rome.
The Great Fire o Rome was 18-19 July 64 CE or AD

Remind me again the timeline when jesus supposedly died wasn't it 29‐33 AD? So the fire happens some 31‐35 years later. Your magical jesus is removed from the entire picture.
All it says is there were christians (no one is disputing that they existed) and they were blamed and punished for the Fire of Rome.

Keep in mind this is all secondhand information at best Tacitus was believed to have written these annals 115–117 CE or AD. He wasnt even born when jesus was supposedly lived.
It could even be possible these christians started the fire themselves and were lawfully punished for their crimes.

Just because christians cult existed doesn't mean jesus existed and even if a guy named jesus existed it gives no confirmation that he was magical in any way. There were thousands of local cults and mystery religions at that time.
Stop lying to yourself hopefully you can honestly reflect on this and come to same conclusion. Christianity is fake

This post was edited by addone on Apr 30 2026 02:13am

Even if you somehow managed to prove that someone named jesus existed, doesn't prove he was magical or rose from the dead etc. All you are doing is looking for proving the non magical aspects then equate that to the magical aspects being true also.

What you should be doing is only accepting the non magical parts and rejecting all the magical stories and creatures of the bible. For example you and I can agree that Bethlehem or Babyloon are real places but magic garden, heaven and hell are not.we can agree that there were christian cultists but not the magical man that revived people from the dead including himself. We can agree there probably was a regional flood and a bunch of people drowned but not a global flood where everything drowned and a 950 year old man made a boat and saved all the species on earth then repopulated with the help of his sons using incest.

Only believe what has actual proof behind it otherwise you are seeking to validate your wishful thinking called Spiderman fallacy

This post was edited by addone on Apr 30 2026 02:51am

Actual proof comes from having faith and following him.

You are not getting your photograph from a time before he was here on Earth.

Thats not how proof works. What you described is being guillable and taking information at face value. You must also believe the earth is flat and Zeus is real also.
Its when you are too stubborn and prideful to admit that you don't know. Stop trying to gap fill everything with magic its immature and lazy thinking.

We live on a Globe. (Bible is also correct on our Earth's shape btw)

I'll continue to follow Jesus.

This post was edited by D_urRRR on Apr 30 2026 05:14pm

'atheists can make some of the best christian platforms.
"magical animals"
keep in mind something like this. most likely any 'atheist wont even view vid. the idea that 'atheists are some kind of logic machine is bullcrap.
i been doing this for years. never had a "atheist" view a vid and say "ya know ? thats a pretty good explanation" its never happened. what they will do is ignore it, most likely completely. then after a while when they think no one remembers they will start saying "magical animals" again.
then you post the same vid again for the new viewers. thats one of the reasons 'atheist platforms make good christian platforms.
Why Does the Bible Mention Unicorns?


This post was edited by TiStuff on Apr 30 2026 08:44pm

I am glad you people finally have come to terms that we live on the globe. Took you long enough. Not only did early christians used to believe earth was flat they also thought the earth was the center of the universe for thousands of years, they burned people at a stake for saying otherwise.

Copernicus and later Galileo schooled the primate cultists on how the planets actually worked. The christian cult didn't like that so they punished Galileo.

The Church officially admitted error and cleared Galileo’s name of heresy on October 31, 1992. If only christians catch up to the rest of the world by dropping their outdated bronze age beliefs. But it might be another several hundred years of pure stubbornness and copium before that happens.

This post was edited by addone on Apr 30 2026 08:48pm

That image you posted is a medieval manuscript copy of Annals by Tacitus. That’s completely normal—we don’t have original copies of almost any ancient works.

The same is true for accounts about Julius Caesar and other ancient figures. History is preserved through copies, and scholars compare multiple manuscripts to determine accuracy.

More importantly, your own quote still confirms the key point: Tacitus states that Jesus Christ (‘Christus’) was executed under Pontius Pilate. That’s an independent Roman source, which contradicts your earlier claim that no one outside the Bible mentions him.

Now you’ve shifted to ‘that doesn’t prove miracles.’ I agree—it doesn’t. But that’s a different argument. Establishing that Jesus existed is the first step; debating miracles is a separate discussion.

Dismissing all manuscript evidence as unreliable would mean throwing out most of ancient history, not just this.