Lol

Does the capitol count?

Sure, let's compare the number of deaths, number of buildings destroyed, and amount of damage in dollars.

This post was edited by sirthom on Sep 11 2022 10:48am

yes because a Target store and the Capitol are the same thing..

The build the wall crowd owns more deaths, for sure.

Looks like the trump puppet judge got logic'd to death by DOJ.
they also offered her and easy way out. We shall see if she likes being famous and wants to push back some more.
So much losing. anything affiliated with Trump is losing. No wonder conservatives like him so much.
perpetual losing.

If the Logan Act was an old, irrelevant statute when Flynn violated it, things shouldn't change when Kerry violates it.

The Russia investigation started when Trump wasn't president, and it didn't start because of the Carter Page FISA. Carter Page wasn't even a significant part of what the investigation became. But yes, Trump tried to obstruct the Russia investigation, and he was unsuccessful.

So, sure, maybe it would be more accurate to call Trump a wannabe tyrant. That was usually the case. But even when he was unsuccessful overall, whether he was pressuring Ukraine to smear Biden, or trying to overturn the election, that's not actually a legitimate defense of his behavior. And there were seriously negative consequences for the country even in his failures.

Let's consider the mostly nonsensical narrative of "Obama and the deep state went after Trump to try to end his presidency". They weren't successful, right? Trump remained president after the Russia investigation ended. But you still consider this (mostly fictional) attempt to end Trump's presidency as bad.

Your whole analysis is the most fictitious thing I’ve ever read.

Biden smeared himself when he actually engaged in quid pro quo with Ukraine and admitted it on film. Donald Trump made a phone call like, “hey what is this all about?” This happened way before anybody even thought about Biden for president. There was no political gain here for Donald trump, although it became extremely obvious there was as soon as the world went insane and tried ending his presidency because of it.

Obama did obtain a visa warrant to spy on a rival political campaign. This was literally watergate but much more technologically advanced, and nobody gave a shit because trump hated Mexicans or something.

It seems as if you are just fine with Joe Biden doing exactly what they could never prove trump did, and getting away with it. Not only getting away with it but the entire corporate machine says “Russian misinformation” and moves on immediately. That is so fucking corrupt.

It also seems you are just fine with a repeat of watergate, and again nobody gives a shit because the corporate press simply says Donald is X Y Z and therefore something that was absolutely unspeakable just a few decades ago is now just how the game is played.

I agree with the bold. Kerry's offense was far greater than Flynn's, but I don't think he should go to jail for it. That's a very high bar. Never engaging in public policy again is enough.

Re: the FBI Russia-gate saga, FBI lawyers found it necessary to lie to FISA court judges. FBI brass found it necessary to lie to their own rank and file about Alfa Bank. The FBI knew well and early that the dossier was bunk, Steele's own "source" repudiated him in person to the FBI in interview. Multiple FBI agents were variously fired, reassigned, or retired (even recently!) for misconduct. It's a problem, and one that can only be rectified by some people spending a lot of time in jail.