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Jun 3 2024 04:21pm
Quote (Landmine @ Jun 3 2024 03:56pm)
It’s not illegal to pay for an nda. It’s also not a campaign violation to pay for an nda with personal money. An expenditure of paying a lawyer is a legal expense. Please try to keep up.


Not all payments to somebody who happened to be a lawyer is a legal expense.

Lawyers don't pay hush money to influence campaigns as part of their normal work.
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Jun 3 2024 04:27pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 3 2024 04:21pm)
Not all payments to somebody who happened to be a lawyer is a legal expense.

Lawyers don't pay hush money to influence campaigns as part of their normal work.


Paying “hush money” which is an nda isn’t illegal. It’s not a campaign expense violation.


“ In Trump’s case, he’s not being charged with making the payment itself or reimbursing it, but has only been indicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records, based on the fact that his reimbursement payments to Cohen were allegedly disguised as legal payments.”




This is about terminology. Did the lawyer cohen provide services as a lawyer to Trump? If so then it’s a legal expense. This is about a book keeper pulling down a draw down tab and labeling it as a legal expense.

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Quote (Landmine @ Jun 3 2024 05:27pm)
Paying “hush money” which is an nda isn’t illegal. It’s not a campaign expense violation.

“ In Trump’s case, he’s not being charged with making the payment itself or reimbursing it, but has only been indicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records, based on the fact that his reimbursement payments to Cohen were allegedly disguised as legal payments.”

This is about terminology. Did the lawyer cohen provide services as a lawyer to Trump? If so then it’s a legal expense. This is about a book keeper pulling down a draw down tab and labeling it as a legal expense.


If Cohen was paying it out and it was a legal expense why did he pay income tax on it? If I pass my lawyer $1000 to pay for fulfillment of a contract the laywer does not pay income tax on that.

So you're stuck between two cases. It's a contractual expense, in which case Cohen doesn't pay income tax on it, or its payment for legal work, in which case why did he pay it out to somebody else?

You can't have it both ways.
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Jun 3 2024 05:09pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 3 2024 05:00pm)
If Cohen was paying it out and it was a legal expense why did he pay income tax on it? If I pass my lawyer $1000 to pay for fulfillment of a contract the laywer does not pay income tax on that.

So you're stuck between two cases. It's a contractual expense, in which case Cohen doesn't pay income tax on it, or its payment for legal work, in which case why did he pay it out to somebody else?

You can't have it both ways.


It was cohens idea to have it taxed. Which we find out by listening to the case. We also found out cohen was stealing money. (Trump was being used by a fraudster)

By the way advice of counsel isn’t illegal and you should know this. Cohen states that he was the one to take care of this issue.

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It was cohens idea to have it taxed. Which we find out by listing to the case. We also found out cohen was stealing money. (Trump was being used by a fraudster)

By the way advice of counsel isn’t illegal and you should know this. Cohen states that he was the one to take care of this issue.


None of this exonnerates Trump. They did not rely on advice of counsel defense.

Try again skippy. Trump's guilty.
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TRUMP 2024!!!!
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None of this exonnerates Trump. They did not rely on advice of counsel defense.

Try again skippy. Trump's guilty.


Still doesn’t matter it’s not a crime. How about this what should of the payments been labeled as?

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Still doesn’t matter it’s not a crime. How about this what should of the payments been labeled as?


Don't waste your time with this guy.

He got a worthless PhD and was living in Obama's "Hope and Change" mentality. He thought the democrat party would pay off his school loans. He's still hoping for that.

He can't stand the fact that the average American knows that Trump was treated DIFFERENT then any other "individual" facing the same charges.

He'll talk about "law" but not how it was applied unfairly/unjustly.

If was in Trumps shoes he'd be just as confident as Trump knowing it's all a sham.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Jun 3 2024 06:11pm
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Don't waste your time with this guy.
He got a worthless PhD and was living in Obama's "Hope and Change" mentality. He thought the democrat party would pay off his school loans. He's still hoping for that.
He can't stand the fact that the average American knows that Trump was treated DIFFERENT then any other "individual" facing the same charges.
He'll talk about "law" but not how it was applied unfairly/unjustly.
If ^Thor123422 was in Trumps shoes he'd be just as confident as Trump knowing it's all a sham.


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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 3 2024 06:21pm)
Not all payments to somebody who happened to be a lawyer is a legal expense.

Lawyers don't pay hush money to influence campaigns as part of their normal work.


It wasn't a campaign expense. With the category being as wide as that, payments to a local gym would also have to be filed.

The most ridiculous part of this whole case is that there are no victims and no damages.
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