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Quote (Santara @ Jun 16 2015 08:27pm)
...or he's lumping grandmothers and great grandmothers into one term for ease of typing?


you don't wanna know the other way i could've interpreted it

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...or he's lumping grandmothers and great grandmothers into one term for ease of typing?


Or re-marriage after a spouse's death.
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you don't wanna know the other way i could've interpreted it


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Quote (duffman316 @ Jun 16 2015 08:38pm)
good argument, i agree now that corporations shouldn't pay taxes


You're like a woman, I swear.
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You're like a woman, I swear.


funny coming from a guy who continues to deflect and dodge any questions about his stance against making rich folks pay their share of taxes

blah blah blah obamacare
blah blah blah entitlement
blah blah blah food stamps
blah blah blah obamaphone

are you ever going to defend your position here?

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Quote (duffman316 @ Jun 18 2015 11:03am)
funny coming from a guy who continues to deflect and dodge any questions about his stance against making rich folks pay their share of taxes

blah blah blah obamacare
blah blah blah entitlement
blah blah blah food stamps
blah blah blah obamaphone

are you ever going to defend your position here?


He secretly loves Lifestyles of the Rich and the Famous and is worried if the rich take a hit he wont get to see any more sick cribs with golden bathtubs.
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Quote (duffman316 @ Jun 18 2015 01:03pm)
funny coming from a guy who continues to deflect and dodge any questions about his stance against making rich folks pay their share of taxes

blah blah blah obamacare
blah blah blah entitlement
blah blah blah food stamps
blah blah blah obamaphone

are you ever going to defend your position here?


Alright, lets sit down them...

The problem isn't the rate of taxes on the rich. Its the rules of engagement in the economy today. The fact is that our laws are set up to reward people for taking unfair measures.

People that can afford fancy lawyers to interpret 80,000 page tax codes pay far lower percent of taxes than the rest of the population.

If these loopholes were eliminated in one way or another, the government revenue would increase and there would be a purely proportional tax code that would in the end be better for all of society.


Personally I'm against progressive taxes (higher percent as your income goes up), because allowing the rich to put their money back into the economy does more for the growth of a nation then funneling it into a government which honestly has no idea what its doing at this point in time. In a government organization, if you don't spend all of your allocated money you are penalized. HUUGe waste of money from anybody's point of view. I don't see why we should marginalize and be petty with rich people who, for the most part, provide very valuable services to society. ie: Do you honestly think capital gains tax helps anyone is this country? If anything, it crucifies self-employed skilled laborers and the such.

Look anywhere as well. The United States has higher taxes on the rich than any other country in the world.

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LOL

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Alright, lets sit down them...

The problem isn't the rate of taxes on the rich. Its the rules of engagement in the economy today. The fact is that our laws are set up to reward people for taking unfair measures.

People that can afford fancy lawyers to interpret 80,000 page tax codes pay far lower percent of taxes than the rest of the population.

If these loopholes were eliminated in one way or another, the government revenue would increase and there would be a purely proportional tax code that would in the end be better for all of society.


Personally I'm against progressive taxes (higher percent as your income goes up), because allowing the rich to put their money back into the economy does more for the growth of a nation then funneling it into a government which honestly has no idea what its doing at this point in time. In a government organization, if you don't spend all of your allocated money you are penalized. HUUGe waste of money from anybody's point of view. I don't see why we should marginalize and be petty with rich people who, for the most part, provide very valuable services to society. ie: Do you honestly think capital gains tax helps anyone is this country? If anything, it crucifies self-employed skilled laborers and the such.

Look anywhere as well. The United States has higher taxes on the rich than any other country in the world.


these loopholes that allow them to get away with not paying the actual taxes they should be paying is what i'm targetting

my problem isn't that taxes aren't too high or low, perfectly legal schemes to move money around and avoid paying the actual taxes owed for money made on us soil is my problem - there are a lot of obstacles to getting rid of said loop holes or reforming tax policy from corporate america for this reason

as for tax systems, you realize whether it's progressive or flat that those that have the most wealth will still make up most of the tax pool correct?

with flat taxes you risk overwhelming those on the bottom or produce significant cuts in government spending on goods/services/projects that help the general public

progessive tax policies are more sensible for this reason and make it easier to achieve an ideal level of spending/taxation for whatever your goals are


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