Quote (dro94 @ 5 Aug 2018 17:00)
You can't attribute all of it to a single administration or party and no one said you could, but that doesn't mean certain administrations haven't contributed to the deficit and debt proportionally more, or whether the economic conditions at the time which influenced it are insignificant.
While there were undoubtedly structural issues in the financial system dating back 30+ years that we can't assign blame to easily, to then say that everyone contributed and thus implying that we can't hold administrations to account for it is intellectually lazy.
But all we, they, everyone seems to do is point blame. No real solutions are ever pursued, but we continue to play along with the game, when it needs a fundamental change.
We can hold administrations accountable for their actions, but it's also important to figure out exactly where and how things have gone wrong so that corrective action can be taken. I don't see how that is intellectually lazy; if anything, the opposing view point is intellectually lazy, or at least flawed (just as my view point is inherently flawed, because I have no easily implementable solution)
Casting blame, intellectually lazy. This administration fucked up here, we need the other party in office for x,y,z. Why? We continue to vote and contribute to this flawed system that pushes the status quo. Which leads us to Trump, where I believe he saw this opening, and lead with, albeit lies or at least empty promises, jobs, draining the swamp, etc.
Decrease govt spending
Audit govt programs
Lower the defense budget
Shrink overall govt
I've heard arguments for it, and I'm on the fence, but I also think removing the minimum wage may help stimulate the job market, and I think education is at a critical point here. We are dancing on the edge of a student loan bubble already as it is, and we are losing trade/skilled labor force.
Not to derail what was being said, but I think the discussion naturally doubles back to a lot of these things.