You were silent through 8 Obama scandals. We know.

This one isnt even at that level.



You mean the way Obama and Biden did five years ago? It was a pretty bad precedent.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Feb 1 2020 06:27am

bad whataboutism is bad.
please explain how obama abused the presidency to smear political opponents and rig the elections in his favour, really looking forward to that one...

Obama was caught on microphone saying he will give Medvedev “more flexibility” after the election. Its like talking to a toddler with you.

Biden didnt look bad because of Trump. Biden looked bad because he bribed UKR.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Feb 1 2020 08:37am

then please explain to the 'toddler' how telling the russian president that he will have political flexibility to talk about contested missile defense issues AFTER his 2012 election (for his second and last term!), is him abusing presidential power in order to cheat with those elections?! what did he withhold / threaten / implement in order to gain which favour / money / support? are you even trying to make a point, or are you just brainlessly regurgitating fox news propaganda, trying to distract from trump's corrupt and unconstitutional behaviour?

Your delirious degenerate conspiracy theories are not even funny.

With anyone else I'd say I'd explain it in case you really are ignorant of the facts, but with you we all know.

Obama was jeopardizing national security and the security of our allies to increase his election chances. He intentionally subverted US foreign policy in a way that left countries like Ukraine vulnerable to Russian retaliation, simply for his own political fortune. Its a clear example of an action with a corrupt dual motive, because we have Obama on tape admitting it. And the scandal that ensued when he got exposed furthered cemented him into that dangerous policy and "inflexibility", for fear of being called out when he backs down after the election. He kept developing that missile defense shield and threatening Russia, and when it came to a head in Ukraine with Euromaidan, Russia invaded and annexed Crimea.

When Obama corrupted US foreign policy to boost his own political cause, it had actual ramifications. People died because of it.
But it was hardly the worst or most notable of Obama's geopolitical fuckups, when he had Ukraine, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, the DPRK, the Arab Spring, ceding Africa to China, etc etc all under his belt in 8 years.

it's amazing how you managed to type all of that without replying to even one of my very simple core questions. it's almost like you're aware that it's a stupid whataboutism to deflect from trump's wrongdoings...

/e

This post was edited by Goomshill on Feb 1 2020 09:53am

that was not the question though, and you know that - at least i would hope so. so please stop the theatre and answer the question if you want to pretend that the whole "b-b-but obaaama!" exercise is not just a silly whataboutism...

At this point I'm pretty sure it was your question. You kept screaming about "after the election"
if you were sane, you'd know he was caught on tape before the election. But you're not, so I'm figuring you literally thought he said it after the election, which explains how you think your question wasn't answered when I explained to you how Obama pushed a missile defense system that he knew was jeopardizing the security of countries like Ukraine

This post was edited by Goomshill on Feb 1 2020 09:57am