Quote (Speckham23 @ 17 Jul 2018 10:54)

He cant be imepeached until his job is finished: Making it obvious to the whole world, that the us constitution is flawed. It took Hitler 12 years to do this job in Germany, i hope that Trump is quicker....

Quote (ThatAlex @ 17 Jul 2018 07:52)

I will say this much: The US intelligence community is way too powerful. It's essentially become an unchecked 4th branch of government.

I believe our intelligence community misled the American people in the aftermath of 9/11 as it pertains to weapons of mass destruction. Their efforts, unverified by the UN, helped lead to overwhelming public support for one of the worst foreign policy decisions our country has ever made..

I rewatched some of the Congressional hearings from this week. Peter Strzok refusing to answer Congressional questions after being subpoeaned on the basis of FBI secrecy was gross to me. I understand there is FBI policy regarding ongoing investigations, but of course the FBI doesn't want this dude to answer Congress' answers in good faith - it would make them look awful. Strzok was an embarrassment.

Throw that in with how Comey clearly botched the entire 2016 election - from the non-indictment to the letter, and the FBI looks very much like an incompetent and politicized organization right now.

I'm gravely concerned for our country. We've got an intelligence community that's way too powerful and out of control, a media that cannot reliably cover any political topic, and a demagogic President who knows exactly the right buttons to push to manipulate all of this chaos to his advantage. Our institutions are failing us, our checks and balances are failing, and most of all, our people are failing us.

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FOX NEWS EXCLUSIVE - PUTIN CLAIMS NO RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, NO 'KOMPROMAT' ON TRUMP: Russian President Vladimir Putin, in an occasionally combative interview with Fox News’ Chris Wallace, called it “utterly ridiculous” that some people think the Russians could have swayed millions of American voters in the 2016 election, while insisting his country did not have dirt on President Trump or his family ... “Interference with the domestic affairs of the United States -- do you really believe that someone acting from the Russian territory could have influenced the United States and influenced the choice of millions of Americans?” Putin said. “This is utterly ridiculous.”

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Putin also denied having “kompromat” -- or "compromising material" -- on Trump. The rumor of the Russians having compromising information on Trump was a central claim in the unverified and salacious dossier written by British ex-spy Christopher Steele and financed by Democrats that made its way to the FBI during the early stages of the Russia investigation.

Quote (Ghot @ Jul 17 2018 04:35am)

And before everyone attacks me, keep in mind that posts #21350 and #21352, pretty much go together. It seems I'm a bit too slow for the JSP edit time limit. :)



tl;dr version:

I think there is definitely something unsavory going on with the FBI and the DOJ.
Trump is having a sit down with Congress today, all day.
I'm not convinced that anything Putin has said is unimpeachable.
I DO wonder about his comment of evidence that $400 million in unlawfully acquired cash, went to Hillary's election campaign. Could be a lure for Trump, or could be actual information.
Most of the early, collusion charges against Trump's campaign were of the sort that taking evidence from Russia about Hillary, was a bad thing.
Even if your normal enemy has evidence of wrongdoing by a presidential candidate, I don't think it should be disregarded simply because they are you normal enemy on the world stage.
Taken with a large grain of salt, yes. Totally disregarded, no.

Quote (Beowulf @ Jul 17 2018 08:41am)

He went in public and encouraged Russian gathering and release of info on his opponent

It's incredible watching some on the right excuse massive wrongdoing by their guy since having watched 8 years of how they treated and talked about Obama over the smallest shit or no shit at all.

"Obama wasn't born here"
"Obama is a terrorist"
blahbittyblahblah

a few years later excusing treasonous acts for the old white dude that vocalizes all the hateful shit they've been wanting to see mainstreamed for years

Quote (Ghot @ Jul 17 2018 05:53am)

Oh so you WANT someone who possibly broke the law severely, to be president? You WANT to remain in the dark?

Quote (Beowulf @ Jul 17 2018 08:56am)

yeah that's definitely what I said

as usual

Quote (Ghot @ Jul 17 2018 06:00am)

So during the campaign (which I assume is what you are referring to) Trump says: relase any info you have of wrongdoing by Hillary. And you would rather... NOT know the truth about who you are electing?

Quote (Beowulf @ Jul 17 2018 09:04am)

I would rather not support public treason

I'm surprised so many "patriotic" Americans that love telling Americans to leave their country for not being patriotic enough (in their ignorant tunnel vision) have shown that they are willing to excuse it all the way up to and including our present day

Quote (excellence @ Jul 16 2018 07:27pm)

man, you’re slow (which is why you’re a lefty voting for lefties who want activist, anti-constitutional SC picks then saying you want constitutional SC justices)

the ongoing message from the anti-Trump crowd is ‘russian hacking’ was why drumpf won the election, and yet Pres Obama said he told putin cut it out and ‘russian hacking’ diminished quite a bit in September 2016. (c)linton was up by +12 in October. drumpf wins in November. angry cia former director brennan blames putin russian hacking for election result.

explain