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Jul 16 2018 04:49pm
Quote (fender @ Jul 16 2018 05:45pm)
what a transparent and lazy spin, as if taking a strong stance against and calling out the PROVEN election meddling of a foreign power was just 'risking peace' - slippery slope much? by that 'logic' no one can fight back against foreign interference anymore if they didn't want to 'risk peace'.

also, it's not about outright refusing any kind of meeting, the criticism concerned a completely private meeting that could (and did) turn out to result in a complete submission to a one-sided narrative, completely dismissing your own country (intelligence services, the vast majority of politicians from both parties...) in favour of russia and putin. they barely managed to stay one step below being so brazenly obvious that even the cult would have started to question who even their actual leader was...


It really shows you just how ridiculous what Trump said is. The White House comms strategy isn't defending any of it, but rather defending the meeting itself and sneakily implying that if Trump doesn't suck up to Putin, we won't have peace with Russia. It's ridiculous.

I haven't seen any Trump shills here actually defend it... just try to minimize and deflect as per usual when the dear leader says something completely stupid.
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Jul 16 2018 04:49pm
Quote (ScoobyDooRunner @ Jul 16 2018 02:25pm)
Looks like the 12 Russians that were indicted were meddling under Obama's term and the FBI even him informed him about it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/07/14/trump-obama-russia-election-meddling-mueller-indictments-722197


Cool, arrest Obama. They can share a cell.
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Jul 16 2018 04:56pm
Ouch. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/16/trump-scores-on-his-own-goal.html

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If Trump’s critics had scripted it, they could hardly have done better at showing him as the junior partner in the bilateral relationship. Putin was clearly in charge from beginning to end with Trump jumping in to blame America for problems Russia created and to denounce the same investigation that just offered conclusive proof of Putin’s wrongdoing in 2016.


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Whatever domestic political considerations that Trump had in mind when setting up the meeting with Putin, the president succeeded today in undoing months of work by his administration and its supporters outside the White House. After that display, Special Counsel Robert Mueller is safer in his job than the guy selling aloe vera at the nude beach.
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Jul 16 2018 05:05pm
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Yeah... a lot of Trump cult media figures(Gingrich, Ingraham) aren't even defending this. I listened to Hannity on my way home and he was doing his standard Trump defense.

The last line you posted gives me hope though. I think after Trump's nonsense today, there's absolutely no way Mueller or Rosenstein get fired. If they are fired, Trump's presidency is over.
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Jul 16 2018 05:13pm
Quote (timmayX @ Jul 16 2018 01:39pm)
It takes balls to join a wave of hysterical lefties in asking ridiculous questions with no basis in fact?


https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1018989931023106049

Uh oh, I guess Chris Wallace from Fox News is joining the hysterical lefties.
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Jul 16 2018 05:17pm
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Yeah... a lot of Trump cult media figures(Gingrich, Ingraham) aren't even defending this. I listened to Hannity on my way home and he was doing his standard Trump defense.

The last line you posted gives me hope though. I think after Trump's nonsense today, there's absolutely no way Mueller or Rosenstein get fired. If they are fired, Trump's presidency is over.


well, hannity openly embraced his propagandist role long ago. also, he will be lobbing softballs at him tonight, which makes it even more unlikely that he says something that could be interpreted as even remotely critical. expect the same from tucker...
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Jul 16 2018 05:19pm
Why do people call putin a dictator? he has elections just like america, they were rigged just like the american ones.
Trump must be a dictator too as we know there was clear interference in his election.
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Jul 16 2018 05:20pm
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/russian-agent-federation-doj/index.html

Mariia Buttina arrested, seems like this could shed some light in the near future.

Here is another juicy one.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/16/maria-butina-charged-spying-russia-us-doj

This post was edited by Brian_D on Jul 16 2018 05:21pm
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Jul 16 2018 05:22pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jul 16 2018 06:19pm)
Why do people call putin a dictator? he has elections just like america, they were rigged just like the american ones.
Trump must be a dictator too as we know there was clear interference in his election.


Can you go away like you promised days ago?

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https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1018977548330569729

funny
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Jul 16 2018 05:23pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jul 16 2018 04:22pm)
Can you go away like you promised days ago?

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https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1018977548330569729

funny


I'm going with 7.5
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