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Yes, I've been sobbing uncontrollably ever since I heard Papa John used the word nigger in a non-insulting way.

my take on this opinion piece: cry me a river.

to name just one example: the support for family separations at the border among registered republicans - interpreted here as a sign of the mob embracing savagery and the dehumanization of the scapegoat out-group. but maybe this number simply stems from republican voters realizing that stopping those family separations would, in the long run, inevitably lead to the return of catch-and-release policies, which in turn would make any control or reduction of irregular immigration impossible.

as Ghot has put it:
"some of the saner minds realizing that a constant influx of illegal immigrants or immigrants from third world countries..."
...is not sustainable in the long run without turning the own country into a yet another failed, 3rd world shithole.

I've said it before and I'll happily say it again: in the coming decades, we, the people of the wealthy industrialized west, will have to choose between either high moral standards or our wealth and safety.


oh, and of course we have this highlight of disinformation right here:

Lets not forget that it was the political left that reintroduced identity politics and tribalism. They are the ones who turned "white man" from a description into an accusation. They are the ones who started scapegoating "old white (cis) men" for everything wrong in this world. They are the ones who called for the introduction of female and minority quotas, i.e. saying that your social identity and not your personality or your performance should determine your chances in life. They are the ones who put the focus of the debates of various social issues (police violence, poverty, drugs) on race, gender, identity.

The claim that this approach of amplifying tribalism is a basic tool of fascism is correct - but they dont realize that it's coming from their side, from the political left. The renaissance of white and patriarchic identity politics, as symbolized by the rise of Trump, is the reaction to this anti-white, anti-male identity politics from the left.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 15 2018 05:28pm

all your strawmen and whataboutisms can't hide the fact that every single point he made is true. you might disagree with his conclusions, might try to downplay how serious and how dangerous it is, you might reply with exaggerations, lies, and hysteria about immigration, but that does not change the facts.
wehret den anfängen - well, it's already too late for that, but still acting like this is all made up out of thin air, while at the same time actively participating in ostracising certain parts of the population, delegitimising critical press (also a step towards fascism), and supporting isolationist and jingoistic policies, either indicates you're not even realising you're part of this movement or that you do and think those kinds of regimes are great (as long as they haven't come for your people yet)...

I am with you to an extent, I am more of a middle ground though.

oh, really?

I dont have the time nor the motivation to dissect every single point of this quite long article, but lets just take one counterexample, which is already sufficient to disprove your "every single point he made is true"-statement:

In the quoted article, we find the following claim:


Lets just take a look at two examples. First, the rise of Benito Mussolini, THE original Duce and inventor of fascism, if you will:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_general_election,_1921
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini#March_on_Rome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_general_election,_1924

so in 1921, during the last free election in Italy before the rise of Mussolini's fascism, the right-wing bloc that later supported Mussolini's government just got 19% of the vote. Then followed the coup d'etat by Mussolini, and the next election was already characterized by massive terror on the streets, and has to be considered unfree or rigged.

As a second, more contemporary example, let's look at Hungary's Victor Orban and his Fidesz party - Orban is often considered a fascist, or at least to be on a clear path towards fascism, by the liberal media, liberal pundits and liberal activists like yourself. It is often said that Orban's model is the prototype of the alt-right in europe, that it's the model of how to abandon the "liberal democracy" in favor of an "illiberal democracy".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_parliamentary_election,_2006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_parliamentary_election,_2010

So in 2002 and 2006, a coalition between the socalist party and the liberal democrats was elected. Then, in 2010, when Orban came to power, he did so with an absolute majority of 52.7% of the vote.


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The tldr is that the article's assertion that "fascism typically comes with around 40% of the vote" is factually incorrect and an apparent attempt of making the reader think of Trump's election win with 46% of the popular vote, and his approval ratings, which have been hovering aroiund 40%. It is a dirty play aiming to create an association in the readers' minds between Trump and fascism, and it's based on falsehoods!

In turn, this example claim from the article (which I have just proven to be wrong) proves your assertion that "every single point he made is true" to be wrong as well.


I hope you, and other interested readers, understand that I cant go into this depth on every single point made in the article.




critizing and questioning an overtly biased press for its bias is not the same as delegitimizing it. that's an important distinction to make!
I'll admit that Trump is doing both, he's fighting against an obvious bias of the mainstream media against him and his policies, but he's also going further than that from time to time in attempts at actually delegitimizing the critical press. nonetheless, a politician disagreeing with parts of the press doesnt automatically qualify as "delegitimizing" it, and it doesnt automatically tick the fascism checkbox.





oh, I dont deny that there is a certain risk right now of rising fascism. it's just that I sense this danger from both fringes, the left and the right. and at the moment, I personally consider the danger posed by the totalitarian, regressive left to be larger than that posed by Trump, Orban et al. Why? Simply because I consider the rise of those right-wing populists to be closely tied to and caused by the excesses of the regressive left.

In my humble opinion, it is the left that has to come to its fucking senses again - when that happens, there will no longer be a need for the Trumps of this world, and their support will crumble, back to the fringe, to the sub-15%-territory.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 15 2018 09:28pm

Trump's performance review almost over.

does compulsive hand-washing protect from novichok?

That was a disaster. Unbelievable.

Kudos to the American journalist who had the balls to ask Putin if he has kompromat on Trump.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jul 16 2018 10:13am