Quote (Black XistenZ @ 29 Jul 2018 23:04)
exactly. and on top of all this, it is pretty apparent that people like Ocasio-Cortez are the future of the democratic party, people like her are the young ward that will take over once the "old white" party leadership has died off due to age. Ocasio-Cortez is a symbol for the course that the democratic party is on: to abandon white voters and their interests altogether and become the everything-non-white party.
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 29 Jul 2018 23:10)
lol no? she's advocating state guaranteed jobs for everybody. this is textbook socialism and nothing to be found among european social democrats. and she's very outspoken about this point, so it's not like this is some minor issue from her agenda that I/'we' misrepresent.
another key difference is that she suggests free college - difference in the sense that you cant compare the situation in europe, with a relatively cheap and lean publicly funded university system, with a system in which the American public would have to pay the outrageous fees of the private, for profit american universities. free college in the united states would either be textbook socialism again; or require a complete reorganization of the country's entire tertiary education system.
tell me, how does she 'abandon white voters'? which of her policies are 'non-white'? do white people not want affordable healthcare? do they not want to be able to earn a decent wage? do they not want their politicians to represent them rather than the corporations that buy them via legal bribery? do they not want equality of opportunity? polls seem to indicate they do, so what are you basing your evaluation on? sounds like a bunch of establishment propaganda and fearmongering to me...
concerning her 'radical' suggestions: you, as a devout trump disciple, should really know that you have to aim for more than you will realistically get in order to achieve any kind of meaningful change...
Quote (Beowulf @ 29 Jul 2018 23:11)
Until these types get much better at interviews and during public debate on a large stage the right will knock them down pretty easily
they have their talking points memorized as you do right now but they will need to show much more than they currently do. Much of the country isn't that far left and the more open people are looking for stronger candidates representing those policies than what we have seen so far
Socialism is still a powerful weapon and motivator on the right, will need a helluva candidate to break through.
that's establishment talk right there. may i remind you who's currently president? she is twice as smart and eloquent... sure, she's not as polished as most career politicians, and not even close to as smooth as obama was for example, but that didn't hurt trump, did it?