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Jul 11 2018 09:05pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 11 Jul 2018 21:33)
while I generally agree that Trump isnt playing 10d chess, I, at the same time, think that his haters among democrats and media folks dont give him enough credit. someone who is just stupid and committing blunder after blunder all the time just cannot possibly be as successful as he has been.

for example, I am convinced that Trump is often deliberately using one of his "outrageous" monday morning tweets to set the tone/agenda for the week, and every single time the media is taking the bait. other stuff like covfefe were pretty clearly just fuckups with no deeper meaning.


I won't deny he's proven to be effective at manipulating the media. He's pretty much built his career and fame out of that skill.

I think what you see is what you get with Trump, which is why I don't think we should read too much into his behavior or every little tweet. He's pretty much been the same person since he's entered public view. I don't think he's a political genius, I just think enough people find him relatable, charming, and funny. He certainly doesn't get enough credit for his humor.

Could there be a method to the madness? It's certainly possible. But if I had to guess, taking the whole picture into consideration, I think it's mainly Trump being Trump, and his personality has proven to be very effective with people. He's not pretending to be someone he is not, and I don't think there's some grand scheme or much political strategy about it, either.
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Jul 11 2018 09:26pm
it might be bullshit, but

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SUNRISE, Fla. -- In the crucial first minutes after a gunman began shooting students and staff at a Florida high school, law enforcement's response was hampered by quirks in the local 911 system that caused many calls from inside the school to be transferred, the chairman of a commission investigating the massacre said.

Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri, chair of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission, said Wednesday that the dual dispatch system used by the city of Parkland delayed getting responding police officers and sheriff's deputies timely information during the Feb. 14 shooting that left 17 dead and 17 wounded.

Parkland, where the school is located, gets police service from the Broward Sheriff's Office, and fire and paramedic service from the neighbouring city of Coral Springs, which also has a police department. Cellular 911 calls from Parkland go to Coral Springs. Those callers needing police are transferred to Broward County's 911 centre. Almost all calls from Stoneman Douglas were from cellphones, which had to be transferred. That added about 30 seconds before each reached a dispatcher -- if the call wasn't disconnected.

Coral Springs is one of two Broward cities that aren't part of the countywide 911 system. Gualtieri believes that needs to end.

"The problem is that you have not one truly consolidated 911 centre in Broward County," Gualtieri said. "People who call 911 and need help immediately, the person who took the call cannot get them the help they need." He said that is not unique to Broward -- it is a problem nationwide, particularly with cell calls to 911.

After testifying before the commission, Shawn Backer, deputy chief of the Coral Springs Police Department, told reporters it is too early to say whether the bifurcated system created any significant delays in the response. He said Broward sheriff's deputies and Coral Springs officers who responded to the school were quickly able to establish communications.

"I wouldn't say there was a failure of communication. The boots on the ground, the officers that were there, were in contact with deputies from the sheriff's office instantaneously and were able to share information in person," he said.

He said one reason Coral Springs has stayed out of the county 911 system is it doesn't want to lose the "hometown feel," relaying a story about a woman who drove into a city canal. She didn't know where she was but the Coral Springs dispatcher figured it out by the landmarks she saw, something a county dispatcher would not have been able to do.

Commissioner Max Schachter, whose son Alex died in the shooting, said the systems need to be merged because any delay is unacceptable.

The commission, which includes law enforcement, educators, a legislator, parents of slain students and others, is in the middle of a three-day monthly meeting as it examines the massacre's causes. It will issue a report by the end of the year and make recommendations to prevent future school shootings. The commission is scheduled Thursday to discuss the state's gun purchase laws and its mental health system.

Meanwhile, suspect Nikolas Cruz allegedly told a woman months before the shooting that he might attack the school and that he might even kill her -- but she never called police.

Giovanna Cantone's statement was one of many made public Wednesday as part of the prosecution of 19-year-old Cruz. Also released were more accounts from people who knew Cruz, including his brother Zachary.

Cantone told a detective that she was at the Dollar Tree store where her daughter and Cruz worked last summer. She said she told Cruz he had other options after getting expelled from Stoneman Douglas.

"He said, ah, I can go shoot them and you know I can shoot you too," Cantone said. "I says this guy is like, you know, talking kind of crazy. I'm not used to those things."'

But Cantone said she never reported the conversation to authorities, although she did call an FBI hotline after the killings.

"I let it go. I'm sorry I did that, you know, but then I understand that a lot of people came forward," she said. Others told the FBI and Broward Sheriff's Office before the massacre that Cruz might commit a school shooting, but that was never investigated.

Zachary Cruz, 18, said his brother changed after their mother, Lynda, died in November. He was asked why he thought Nikolas Cruz would attack the school.

"I think just because he lost hope in life," Zachary Cruz replied. "He'd be telling me, like, dude, I don't even want to live any more."

Nikolas Cruz is charged with 17 counts of first-degree murder. His attorneys have said he would plead guilty in exchange for a life sentence without parole. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.



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I'm not understanding your beef on this one

all the sources I looked at gave the full rundown of the context and I'm not sure in context it really makes him look that great or like a victim of some media campaign including his own apology


I don't think the media is doing any bad reporting here, besides maybe the headlines referring to him as 'using a racial slur' which is rather misleading.
No, theres a glaring societal wrong here in how absurdly we're crucifying people for words taken out of context and treated as some ultimate taboo. Merely saying or typing "nigger" or any other racial slur is automatically treated worse by society than most crimes, even if someone was saying it specifically in the context of discussing the term and its societal implications like I'm doing now. Which reached its event horizon of absurdity in the case of the professor who was villified for saying it when teaching a sociology class about hate speech, specifically in the thought experiment of whether society considers it worse for a white man to walk up to a black man and punch him in the face, or for a white man to walk up to a black man and call him a nigger.
Its just one manifestation of the irrationality of our culture
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Jul 12 2018 04:18am
feel good video of the day
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yNGaXMAraRKj

action starts about 5 minutes in

also check out around 11:38 :)

This post was edited by low-ki on Jul 12 2018 04:21am
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feel good video of the day
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yNGaXMAraRKj

action starts about 5 minutes in

also check out around 11:38 :)


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Jul 12 2018 06:53am
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Jul 12 2018 07:13am
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Stormy Daniels arrested in Ohio strip club 'setup': lawyer

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-daniels/stormy-daniels-arrested-in-ohio-strip-club-setup-lawyer-idUSKBN1K20IM

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“This was a setup & politically motivated. It reeks of desperation. We will fight all bogus charges,” Avenatti said on Twitter.

Ohio law says that strip club patrons and nude or semi-nude employees are not allowed to touch each other.




Doesn't sound like a setup to me, considering it appears that this is an on the books, state law.





/e On a side note...

Trump flies into 'hot spot' Britain, questioning May's Brexit plan

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-britain/trump-flies-into-hot-spot-britain-questioning-mays-brexit-plan-idUSKBN1K130C

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“I’m going to a pretty hot spot right now, right? With a lot of resignations,” Trump told a news conference at the NATO summit in Brussels.

“The people voted to break it up, so I imagine that’s what they’ll do. But maybe they’re taking a little bit of a different route, so I don’t know if that’s what they voted for.”

Asked about Trump’s comments, May said: “We’re delivering on the vote of the British people to take back control of our money, our laws and our borders.”

Trump has long been a Brexit supporter and has expressed enthusiasm for a wide-ranging trade deal with Britain after Brexit, something heralded by eurosceptics as being one of the great benefits of exiting the bloc.




I'm not quite sure what the reporter(s) in this article are trying to convey. They seem to go back and forth between Britain's dislike of Trump and the meeting between May and Trump. Who knows.

This post was edited by Ghot on Jul 12 2018 07:19am
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Jul 12 2018 07:20am
Has Michael Avenatti ever actually said anything that's true?
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Stormy Daniels arrested in Ohio strip club 'setup': lawyer

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-daniels/stormy-daniels-arrested-in-ohio-strip-club-setup-lawyer-idUSKBN1K20IM





Doesn't sound like a setup to me, considering it appears that this is an on the books, state law.





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Has Michael Avenatti ever actually said anything that's true?


Yes.
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