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Jul 10 2018 06:30am
politifact, policing purely rhetorical language;
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/09/donald-trump/did-ice-liberate-towns-donald-trump-claimed-have-w/

how can they even write that shit with a straight face? They can't possibly delude themselves into thinking they aren't paid shills after writing something like that, can they?
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Jul 10 2018 07:40am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 10 2018 07:30am)
politifact, policing purely rhetorical language;
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/09/donald-trump/did-ice-liberate-towns-donald-trump-claimed-have-w/

how can they even write that shit with a straight face? They can't possibly delude themselves into thinking they aren't paid shills after writing something like that, can they?


How dare people fact check the emperor
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Jul 10 2018 07:42am
Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 10 2018 07:40am)
How dare people fact check the emperor


well how about they fact check him by checking facts? that would be a good start
instead of arguing rhetoric against him
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Jul 10 2018 08:02am
isn't it funny how every single person / organisation / media outlet who dares to criticise / fact check / disagree with trump turns out to be 'paid chills' and 'fake news'?

guess there just are no reliable, honest, and objective sources out there - except fox, breitbart, and the administration itself ofc...
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Jul 10 2018 08:19am
Quote (fender @ Jul 10 2018 07:02am)
isn't it funny how every single person / organisation / media outlet who dares to criticise / fact check / disagree with trump turns out to be 'paid chills' and 'fake news'?

guess there just are no reliable, honest, and objective sources out there - except fox, breitbart, and the administration itself ofc...


It's as fair to criticize msm media coverage as it is the sources that mostly only praise or excuse Trump

Truth is truth and facts are facts and we've yet to see a side with a monopoly of either

Sometimes Trump and his supporters are absolutely full of shit and straight up lying and sometimes mainstream coverage proves to be shady which hurts their credibility and feeds the boogeymen narrative to the right

It's a disservice for the country when Trump calls the media the enemy of the people but it doesn't help when that media are caught putting profits and entertainment over the integrity of the coverage and focusing on narratives rather than being married to objectivity and facts from reliable sources.

Fox News and Breitbart being nearly conspiracy only "news" places for Trump is something to be concerned about and criticize but being a lighter version of that on the left or light left in other msm against Trump isn't helping anything
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Jul 10 2018 08:36am
well read that article and you'll see everything that's wrong with politifact, which masquerades as fact checking but goes so over the top with bias that they abandon the pretense
they posted an entire fact check page in which they are attempting to contradict Trump's use of the word "liberate" to describe MS13 being removed from towns
so even though the facts are that there have been massive national roundups of MS13 members in multiple towns across America in joint ICE/DEA/etc raids;
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/joint-operation-nets-24-transnational-gang-members-475-total-arrests-under-operation
https://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/ms13-gang-trump-central-islip-brentwood-1.18683282
politifact ignored the facts, and instead took issue with the characterization of MS13's removal as 'liberation'.
They rejected the purely rhetorical word choice, and then went through their usual bevy of obviously biased sources who would say Trump is a cannibal if they asked them;

>"This is hyperbolic and misleading language," said Jorja Leap, an adjunct professor of social welfare and director of the Health and Social Justice Partnership at UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs.
>"The claim is sort of outrageous and rather difficult to support since no U.S. government or state government has identified a city over which we lost sovereignty or control," said Fulton T. Armstrong, a research fellow at the Center for Latin American and Latino Studies at American University.

Its almost infantile. They are being absurdly hyper-literal with the word 'liberate', except they are themselves twisting the definition of the word, because 'liberate' by no means is a descriptor exclusive to sovereign governance. Even just opening Merriam Webster would give us "to set free from entanglement or difficulty". A schoolchild might be liberated from the shackles of their homework, an alcoholic might feel liberated by sobriety. Would politifact stop the drunkard in his tracks and insist that its a falsehood that he's liberated from his drinking problem because the intangible concept held no internationally recognized jurisdiction over his affairs of state?

Charitably, they're fucking idiots. More reasonably, they're hacks
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Jul 10 2018 08:46am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 10 2018 09:36am)
well read that article and you'll see everything that's wrong with politifact, which masquerades as fact checking but goes so over the top with bias that they abandon the pretense
they posted an entire fact check page in which they are attempting to contradict Trump's use of the word "liberate" to describe MS13 being removed from towns
so even though the facts are that there have been massive national roundups of MS13 members in multiple towns across America in joint ICE/DEA/etc raids;
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/joint-operation-nets-24-transnational-gang-members-475-total-arrests-under-operation
https://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/ms13-gang-trump-central-islip-brentwood-1.18683282
politifact ignored the facts, and instead took issue with the characterization of MS13's removal as 'liberation'.
They rejected the purely rhetorical word choice, and then went through their usual bevy of obviously biased sources who would say Trump is a cannibal if they asked them;

>"This is hyperbolic and misleading language," said Jorja Leap, an adjunct professor of social welfare and director of the Health and Social Justice Partnership at UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs.
>"The claim is sort of outrageous and rather difficult to support since no U.S. government or state government has identified a city over which we lost sovereignty or control," said Fulton T. Armstrong, a research fellow at the Center for Latin American and Latino Studies at American University.

Its almost infantile. They are being absurdly hyper-literal with the word 'liberate', except they are themselves twisting the definition of the word, because 'liberate' by no means is a descriptor exclusive to sovereign governance. Even just opening Merriam Webster would give us "to set free from entanglement or difficulty". A schoolchild might be liberated from the shackles of their homework, an alcoholic might feel liberated by sobriety. Would politifact stop the drunkard in his tracks and insist that its a falsehood that he's liberated from his drinking problem because the intangible concept held no internationally recognized jurisdiction over his affairs of state?

Charitably, they're fucking idiots. More reasonably, they're hacks


In this case, you're right. It almost reads like an Onion article.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jul 10 2018 08:47am
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Jul 10 2018 09:06am
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How dare people fact check the emperor



Politifarse isnt a real website
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Jul 10 2018 09:07am


I only read about half the politifact article, before I realized this was just more Democrap.
Arguing over how all encompassing words like liberate and town are. When even the states themselves have trouble with words like: town, community, borough, , etc.

The nearer we get to November 6th, the more of this shyt we're going to see.
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