Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 9 2018 04:18pm)
The problem with this line of reasoning is that it diminishes the responsibility of europeans for their own self-determination.
Yes, its good to point out Europe as an example of humane pseudo-empire that established actually free and independent liberal democracies upon shared ideals. But the very essence of that is self-determination, and it is the people of europe that defined their own history since then. So to go back to it and claim that the failures of europe and the breakdown of liberal democracy upon its decadence is an indictment on america's legacy- its an abdication of their responsibility. For Europe to accept dependence on American protection and one-sided relationships is ingrained into their society as continuing consequence of US permanent military hegemony, that stops them from maturing as an independent power. Its been 80 years since WW2, are we going to say that America has a permanent responsibility to suppress intra-European militarism and instead keep them as pseudo-vassals? At what point can european powers be considered rehabilitated and free to determine their own fates? Maybe in the long run that will lead to conflict, maybe the european union will dissolve over infighting. But at what point does it stop being America's responsibility and start being that of the european people?
Those are interesting questions. I sort of hold the view of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", especially with a rising China and a more aggressive Russia. BTW, I'm totally supportive of Trump asking allies to pay more in defense, just don't pretend it's the most serious issue in the world and talk about it publicly all the time.
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 9 2018 05:25pm)
Fun story for us Russiagaters.
This isn't some establishment figure.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/07/03/putting-a-face-mine-to-the-risks-posed-by-gop-games-on-mueller-investigation/Her words:
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I never in my life imagined I would share information with the FBI, especially not on someone I had a journalistic relationship with. I did so for many reasons. Some, but not all, of the reasons are:
I believed he was doing serious harm to innocent people
I believed (others agreed) that reporting the story at that time would risk doing far more harm than good
I had concrete evidence he was lying to me and others, including but not limited to other journalists
I had reason to believe he was testing ways to tamper with my website
I believed that if the FBI otherwise came to understand what kind of information I had, their likely investigative steps would pose a risk to the privacy of my readers
Any idea on the cesspool sites you frequent who the source is Goom?
This post was edited by IceMage on Jul 9 2018 04:37pm
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