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Jul 23 2018 05:29am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jul 23 2018 07:26am)
ROFL American health costs are obama's fault now?
You have had the first worlds most expensive health care for 60 years.




The current extreme costs are his fault or that of his administration.
I'm not comparing to the rest of the world, but to what they were pre-Obama. They've skyrocketed in the last 10 years.
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Jul 23 2018 05:34am
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The current extreme costs are his fault or that of his administration.
I'm not comparing to the rest of the world, but to what they were pre-Obama. They've skyrocketed in the last 10 years.


:rofl:

You're so dumb you don't realize Obama care was a RESPONSE to hugely inflated medical care prices.
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As to conservatives blaming medicaid:


This post was edited by Plaguefear on Jul 23 2018 05:38am
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 23 2018 05:00am)
So... its not bad if you have insurance :zzz:


Sucks to suck


Still shitty unless you have really fickin good insurance.

America's healthcare is worse than most other countries even if you have great insurance. It's only at the very top that you get better care in America.
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Jul 23 2018 05:39am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 23 2018 07:34am)
:rofl:

You're so dumb you don't realize Obama care was a RESPONSE to hugely inflated medical care prices.





Health care costs rise by most in 32 years

https://money.cnn.com/2016/09/16/news/economy/health-care-costs-rise-most-in-32years/index.html

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Health care costs rose sharply in August.

Prices for medicine, doctor appointments and health insurance rose the most last month since 1984. The price increases come amid a broader debate about climbing health care costs and high premiums for Obamacare coverage.

A recent report by Kaiser/HRET Employer Health Benefits forecasts that the average family health care plan will cost $18,142, up 3.4% from 2015. That's faster than wage growth in America.

Medical care costs altogether rose 1% just in August from July, according to the Consumer Price Index, a report on price inflation from the U.S. Labor Department.

Premiums on the Obamacare exchanges are expected to rise by double-digits this year.

Some health insurers, such as Aetna, have recently announced they would pull out of the Obamacare exchanges, saying Obamacare patients have turned out to be sicker and costlier than expected.

Related: Employers push health care costs onto workers

Overall, workers are paying up more for deductibles. Over half of U.S. workers with single coverage health insurance plans pay a deductible of $1,000 or more, up from 31% of workers in 2011.

And the health care price increases come as inflation overall continues to be low. Consumer prices altogether rose 1.1% in August compared to a year ago.




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Jul 23 2018 05:41am
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Cool story bro. Doesn't change the fact that obamacare was specifically legislation meant to deal with hugely inflated healthcare costs.

Whether it worked or not is besides the point that costs were hugely inflated already.
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https://money.cnn.com/2018/01/30/news/economy/health-care-costs-eating-the-economy/index.html

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Americans are paying more

The average premium has risen 19% over the past five years, to $7,000 for single coverage in 2017, and to nearly $19,000 for family coverage, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.

Employers pay about three quarters of their workers' premiums, according to the Society for Human Resource Management.

Despite that large subsidy from their companies, individual workers' health costs have gone up as well.

In addition to premium increases, their out-of-pocket costs, which include what they shell out for deductibles, co-pays and co-insurance, have risen too. Between 2005 and 2015 average out-of-pocket costs grew 66%, or more than twice the growth rate in wages during that period, according to Kaiser.



Ain't my story.... bro.
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Jul 23 2018 05:46am
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Barack Obama served as the 44th President of the United States (2009–2017)
So uh, your story says this rise started in 2005..
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