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Apr 16 2022 08:58pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 16 2022 09:45pm)
You know that there are ways to tell if a younger person is straight or not, other than thinking about them in a sexual manner, right? For example, maybe she could have crushes on boys. And if all her crushes have been boys, then it's not a stretch to say she's probably straight.


So you're saying that because his male child dislikes him saying he has a girlfriend that his child is leaning towards being homosexual?
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Apr 16 2022 08:58pm
I guess it’s relevant. More children are being brought up in today’s world with two mommies, two daddies, a daddy and a genetic female who now identifies as a male, a genetic male who identifies as a women and a mom, a genetic female who identifies as a male and a genetic male who identifies as a women, etc.

My question would be when do children begin to become aware of the difference in their parents/guardians versus the parents/guardians of of others? Honestly it’s a young age.

From my own experiences, I had lesbian neighbors growing up and was aware of it in elementary school (mostly because of all the terrible shit kids would say about them by referring to their home as “the L house” so maybe it does make sense when looking at it from that perspective. I remember asking my mom why kids called them the L house and her having to explain it to me in the 1st grade. I remember them as being kind people just doing their thing and being good neighbors and good people. It was a shame kids would make fun of them.

The challenge is keeping it unbiased and the burden is on the teachers to present this in a way that is informative and not opinionated. That’s a terribly hard thing to do in America for both the 22 year old first time teacher trying to explain this and also the 60 year old teachers that have formed their hard left/right opinions and want to give their two cents on something that should be factual.

But then again, who really knows what the right or wrong way of this is. It’s like everything humans do which will be trial and error but hopefully eventually this stops being polarizing and just becomes a facet of life that is accepted and educational, giving understanding and context to diversity in our communities.
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Apr 16 2022 09:03pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Apr 16 2022 07:58pm)
So you're saying that because his male child dislikes him saying he has a girlfriend that his child is leaning towards being homosexual?


No. I am saying you are being stupid for saying that thinking a child is straight means one is thinking about him in a sexual way. It doesn't. Stop being stupid, please.
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Apr 16 2022 09:19pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 16 2022 10:03pm)
No. I am saying you are being stupid for saying that thinking a child is straight means one is thinking about him in a sexual way. It doesn't. Stop being stupid, please.


You're going to need to go read his words and stop generalizing this. He insist his child is straight without any evidence other than the thoughts in his own head.

Those thoughts can only be explained as sexual thoughts about children.
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Apr 16 2022 09:21pm
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You're going to need to go read his words and stop generalizing this. He insist his child is straight without any evidence other than the thoughts in his own head.

Those thoughts can only be explained as sexual thoughts about children.


It's possible to think about someone's sexual orientation without actually having sexual thoughts about them.

For example, I am pretty sure my brother is straight. However, I know this without having sexual thoughts about him. It's possible.
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Apr 16 2022 09:30pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 16 2022 10:21pm)
It's possible to think about someone's sexual orientation without actually having sexual thoughts about them.

For example, I am pretty sure my brother is straight. However, I know this without having sexual thoughts about him. It's possible.


Sexual iorientation is guess what....sexual. Weird dots to connect it's almost as if sex isn't right there in sexual.

So yes if you wondered about who your brother has sex with you imagined your brother having sex in general.
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Apr 16 2022 09:35pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Apr 16 2022 08:30pm)
Sexual iorientation is guess what....sexual. Weird dots to connect it's almost as if sex isn't right there in sexual.


Sexual orientation isn't necessarily sexual. It merely means which sex/gender one is attracted to. And this attraction can be sexual, though not always. It can also be romantic.

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So yes if you wondered about who your brother has sex with you imagined your brother having sex in general.


I don't need to be imagining about who my brother has sex with to know that he's straight. I look at the fact that all the people he has ever dated are girls and know that he's straight. I think you are grasping at straws here. Trying hard to spin this into a sexual thing. Just stop. You are embarrassing yourself.
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Apr 16 2022 09:44pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 16 2022 10:35pm)
Sexual orientation isn't necessarily sexual. It merely means which sex/gender one is attracted to. And this attraction can be sexual, though not always. It can also be romantic.



I don't need to be imagining about who my brother has sex with to know that he's straight. I look at the fact that all the people he has ever dated are girls and know that he's straight. I think you are grasping at straws here. Trying hard to spin this into a sexual thing. Just stop. You are embarrassing yourself.


If you love men you also want to have sex with men.

Do you love women and want to have sex with men? No? See the problem with acting like love and sex aren't related?

You actually do have to think of your brother in that way to come to that conclusion. Otherwise those girls could of just been friends and not people he dates, but we both know you chose to see it as a sexual situation and not a friendly one. Therefore you imagined your brother having sex with women.
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Apr 16 2022 09:52pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 16 2022 11:35pm)
Sexual orientation isn't necessarily sexual.


Correct!
Asexual people do exist, they are valid, and they are capable of love!
Although I'm not certain that's the point you were trying to make, but that's ok!
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Apr 16 2022 09:55pm
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If you love men you also want to have sex with men.


Not necessarily. Sex isn't a necessary part of love/attraction. For example, I am attracted to men. However, sex has never been a requisite component of my attraction to them. I am perfectly capable of having love for them, minus the sex.

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Do you love women and want to have sex with men? No? See the problem with acting like love and sex aren't related?

I never said they are not related. I am saying that it's possible to love without having sex with someone or even thinking about having sex with them.

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You actually do have to think of your brother in that way to come to that conclusion. Otherwise those girls could of just been friends and not people he dates,


It's possible to date people without having sex with them. I am sure even you know this.

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but we both know you chose to see it as a sexual situation and not a friendly one.


It's neither. I see it as a romantic situation. My brother has always dated girls, and this tells me he's straight. I have no idea whether he's had sex with them. I don't wonder, either.

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Therefore you imagined your brother having sex with women.

I think I know what I do imagine and don't, better than you do.

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