Quote (babun1024 @ Mar 25 2022 09:06am)

I'll answer OP because the rest of the discussion seems bullcrap. .

Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 25 2022 09:44am)

you sure your not mired in subjective reasoning? it sounds good to you so its what you believe?

Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 25 2022 02:44pm)

Genesis 3:14
“And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field;upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:”

How Snakes Lost Their Legs
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/20/498575639/how-snakes-lost-their-legs

When Snakes Had Legs...
https://youngzine.org/news/history/when-snakes-had-legs

the articles say snakes. they dont turn into lizards cause you want it so.

its plenty clear the bible said it first thousands of years before man discovered it.

your evolution "macro" is not proven. it is a fairy tale story submerged into deep time and imagination, defying the scientific method. observable testable repeatable it is not and therefore not scientific.

Quote (babun1024 @ Mar 25 2022 02:55pm)

There're very simple examples of not so outdated concepts. Let's take fasting. Besides having really well documented health benefits, fasting teaches us abstinence, how hunger and misery really feels like. During that time, one becomes more spiritual because one of the "pleasures" is absent. When you see pictures of people dying of hunger you really are compassionate because you remotely know how it feels like. I stark contrast, you've got modern American or British society gor example. They're used to immediate instant gratification, consumption, "comfort". All of that flows into an overweight, impatient, egoistic society which slowly destroys itself over time, something known from the past as decadence.
Then you have divisions in society according to hobbies, food preference (vegan, vegetarian etc), racist, leftist and so on. Religions require them to interact each other no matter what. Without interaction, their views slowly become extremist because they can't/don't compare their views with the ones from other groups. They think their way is the only right way. The more a society is divided in this way the less does a representant of a group care for the rest of the society. They become egoistic without noticing themselves. Once in power, their rules weaken the majouroty or resuöt in foul compromises. Again, US American society is a prime example.Decadence is so developed there that groups don't even discuss with each for the most part.

Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 25 2022 07:03am)

Yes the article says snakes, but its lizards. Its just an article, its keeping things simple. If you would just spend 5 more minutes into researching the subject you would know better.
Btw. is that the only point you wanna discuss with me? if those four legged animals were called snakes or lizards?

Tell me: Why is this one thing something that science found out and you take it for granted while everything else isnt?

You know that snakes with four legs (yeeeees, even if it was snakes and not lizards) lived millions and millions of years before even something close to human beings walked around? Thats what science found out a long time ago.
That part is not evolution macro btw., this is just evidential, proven science. No theory involved.

I am sure you doubt it anyways...but you OF COURSE do not doubt anything about the four-legged snake because it suits your tiny little world.

So you take one thing and present it to me as proof for the bible and reject the other part. You are truly delusional, thats all there is to say.

Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 25 2022 03:15pm)

there are several articles on the subject and they all say snakes. lizards are not snakes with limbs. we have legless lizards today and that what we call them, legless lizards..........

you believe the millions n millions of years cause u wuz conned. no body really has a clue how old the place is because nobody has a clue what the starting conditions of what ever (a rock perhaps) they date is

you date a fossil, it comes from sedimentary rock. sedimentary rock is mineral that is laid down by water. what is the mechanism that restarts the clock for sedimentary rock? the dates are assigned not measured. ya.. I am saying its a scam.

Quote (said_aouita @ Mar 25 2022 07:02am)

Obviously your attentive skills lack the necessary focus to read and understand what he said.

Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 25 2022 03:07pm)

Well, fasting is not a bible originate. It is well documented that even the old egyptians fasted. Thats was well before the bible was written.

Also, the bible is exceptionally racist. So I cant really connect the dots here.

Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 25 2022 10:34am)

then you back up his claims. ev1 else has become quiet.

Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 25 2022 03:34pm)

then you back up his claims. ev1 else has become quiet.