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Jan 5 2022 05:57pm
Quote (crackersj @ Jan 5 2022 05:54pm)
I'll be real here, I kind of rely on these podcasts and their reporting of things when it comes to info. My free time is used up with caring for my flock, the step kids, and various chores after I'm home from work in the metal shop. Now that I'm spending time on JSP I don't really Google this info unless I'm disputed by you guys posting here. I should probably look until things before I use it in my arguments. I guess that'll be part of my "bettering myself" for this year's resolution.


Making a habit of stopping and looking things up before you post them is very much something that will benefit you in all aspects of your life. "The Pause" is kind of a superpower in today's short-attention-span media environment.



Another great channel on that subject.
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This is a chance I love. I get to shill Shaun. He posts exhaustively researched videos on really interesting topics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wRDLf54Scs


Louder with Crowder - strongly right
Tim Pool Daily - strongly right, but uses his origins as an occupy reporter to claim he's left
Timcast IRL - see above
The Jimmy Dore Show - nominally left but with a very strong right-wing streak as he takes the Rubin route for the money
Glenn Beck - strongly right
Breaking Points with Crystal and Saagar - solidly left
"YOUR WELCOME" with Michael Malice - Dunno.
JRE - center to center-right.
Stu Does America (Lots of Blaze network stuff I know) - Never seen, but Blaze is strongly right
Lex Fridman - Never seen


Michael Malice is a jew who escaped death and says defund (phone auto corrected to defend) all police.
Lex is a really smart dude but I'm not quite sure of his politics either as he's the lowest on my listening list.
And I'm 100% going to look into the dude you just posted. I'll actually watch that video in about 30m and probably do a deep dive after. Thank you. Damn only a couple days into PARD and I'm getting more good informative content.

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Jan 5 2022 06:01pm
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Michael Malice is a jew who escaped death and says defund (phone auto corrected to defend) all police.
Lex is a really smart dude but I'm not quite sure of his politics either as he's the lowest on my listening list.
And I'm 100% going to look into the dude you just posted. I'll actually watch that video in about 30m and probably do a deep dive after. Thank you. Damn only a couple days into PARD and I'm getting more good informative content.


I highly recommend watching his video on The Bell Curve. It explains how the arguments around IQ have been fundamentally misrepresented in political discourse to favor a highly racist interpretation. Specifically The Bell Curve is a book that has been massively influential and claims to give an unbiased look at IQ, but actively misrepresents data and gives political recommendations around a conservative framework that isn't supported by the arguments given within the book. It is absolutely the definitive source for political discussion around IQ at the moment.

It is no exaggeration to say that Shaun changes the game around discussion of a topic in non-academic circles every time he puts out a video.

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Jan 5 2022 06:01pm
Quote (crackersj @ Jan 5 2022 06:54pm)
I'll be real here, I kind of rely on these podcasts and their reporting of things when it comes to info. My free time is used up with caring for my flock, the step kids, and various chores after I'm home from work in the metal shop. Now that I'm spending time on JSP I don't really Google this info unless I'm disputed by you guys posting here. I should probably look until things before I use it in my arguments. I guess that'll be part of my "bettering myself" for this year's resolution.


Something to think about is that the programming you expose yourself too can easily change your way of thinking. It's a good idea to develop a sense of healthy skepticism for all things that you hear and tentatively accept what you will while keeping an open mind to changing your position as you learn more of a topic.
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Jan 5 2022 06:08pm
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I highly recommend watching his video on The Bell Curve. It explains how the arguments around IQ have been fundamentally misrepresented in political discourse to favor a highly racist interpretation. Specifically The Bell Curve is a book that has been massively influential and claims to give an unbiased look at IQ, but actively misrepresents data and gives political recommendations around a conservative framework that isn't supported by the arguments given within the book. It is absolutely the definitive source for political discussion around IQ at the moment.

It is no exaggeration to say that Shaun changes the game around discussion of a topic in non-academic circles every time he puts out a video.


Most IQ stuff is as pseudoscience as phrenology or physiognomy. There are so many types of intelligence. People only regard science in the light of successful sciences they know about. There have been a lot of scientific disciplines that have just completely failed. Witch hunting was one of the first scientific disciplines and came with the rise of empiricism itself.



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Francis Bacon (attributed as "Lord Verulam") listed the ingredients of the witches ointment as "the fat of children digged out of their graves, of juices of smallage, wolfe-bane, and cinque foil, mingled with the meal of fine wheat.


Pretty sure you mix that stuff and you can fly or something.

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Jan 5 2022 06:20pm
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Most IQ stuff is as pseudoscience as phrenology or physiognomy. There are so many types of intelligence. People only regard science in the light of successful sciences they know about. There have been a lot of scientific disciplines that have just completely failed. Witch hunting was one of the first scientific disciplines and came with the rise of empiricism itself.

Pretty sure you mix that stuff and you can fly or something.


The research about IQ has gotten drastically better in the past ~10 years. In particular they are looking more deeply into how much it can be changed by physical conditions. Turns out, way more than anybody before the 2010's thought it could be. If you skipped breakfast and have financial troubles that month say goodbye to a solid 0.5-1 standard deviation from your score.
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Jan 5 2022 06:21pm
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Most IQ stuff is as pseudoscience as phrenology or physiognomy. There are so many types of intelligence. People only regard science in the light of successful sciences they know about. There have been a lot of scientific disciplines that have just completely failed. Witch hunting was one of the first scientific disciplines and came with the rise of empiricism itself.


So your reaction to a quantifiable, testable, reproducible branch of science coming to a conclusion you disagree with, is to reject that entire branch of science.
Its "pseudoscience" when clear genetic inheritance can be shown in study after study, in conditions demonstrably not biased on social, economical, racial or ethnic basis.

I don't see any difference between your brand of anti-science and the people who reject all scientific evidence of global warming, or safety of GMO foods, or nuclear energy, or vaccines. There's no shortage of people who would claim that vaccines are a pseudoscience and point to the history of regulatory missteps like thalidomide or electroshock therapy. The main difference between human intelligence psychometrics and most other soft sciences and psychology is that you can actually isolate variables and set up reproducible studies to test hypotheses instead of just spreading dogmatic postulates the other fields believe in like 'diversity is always good'. The findings in The Bell Curve weren't based on speculation or pseudoscience, they stuck to the evidence and stated how much or how little it could demonstrate conclusively.
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Jan 5 2022 06:23pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 5 Jan 2022 19:01)
I highly recommend watching his video on The Bell Curve. It explains how the arguments around IQ have been fundamentally misrepresented in political discourse to favor a highly racist interpretation. Specifically The Bell Curve is a book that has been massively influential and claims to give an unbiased look at IQ, but actively misrepresents data and gives political recommendations around a conservative framework that isn't supported by the arguments given within the book. It is absolutely the definitive source for political discussion around IQ at the moment.

It is no exaggeration to say that Shaun changes the game around discussion of a topic in non-academic circles every time he puts out a video.


Literally going to watch the video right now. This kind of content gets me excited. I like when my perspective is shattered and I'm forced to relearn about things. I hope this guy lives up to the hype you're giving him and you're just not being a fanboy lol

Quote (duffman316 @ 5 Jan 2022 19:01)
Something to think about is that the programming you expose yourself too can easily change your way of thinking. It's a good idea to develop a sense of healthy skepticism for all things that you hear and tentatively accept what you will while keeping an open mind to changing your position as you learn more of a topic.


I'm definitely open to my mind being changed. That Vlogbrothers video you posted basically shattered any preconceived notions I had about the pay gap and what the more right leaning of my circle try to justify it with. This is also why I've been asking for a left leaning podcast. I know I'm skewing myself right with what I listen to but it's pretty hard for me to just dive into a podcast without having known about the people in some way before so I end up not actively looking for left leaning podcasts that aren't just hyper biased buzzword generators. Also my circle of real life friends kind of just withered away so I don't really have any other influences anymore.
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Jan 5 2022 06:24pm
Quote (crackersj @ Jan 5 2022 02:57pm)
Haha. I try to be fair and balanced. The worst possible outcome is an echo chamber. Had 101,014 minutes listened in Spotify last year. Almost exclusively listening to political pundits. You got any suggestions? :hug:



So that's basically him all the time?



I just want to get to know you. My introduction to you was a picture of mycelium in a topic about the US splitting. Kind of confusing LOL


pandemic pathogens, or mutative mycelium like organisms are driving people to irrationality and death, you might have heard of it - they're calling it covid.
Those who are able to resist its emulation or control(think of what a parasite attempts to achieve in its host) will exhibit what people normally show when they're very ill & worse unless they are able to overcome it indefinitely.
There is an interesting dichotomy because those with out symptoms can potentially be in worse shape & likely are when there is something worse than physical death, that is death of the soul & by a spiritual pathogen;

the bible refers to this concept as the mark of the beast's second death:
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-Chapter-20/#4

those with the mark or the spiritual-pathogen that has taken over will promote the hive mind agenda there of, spreading it by vaccines, alcohol based cleaning, high technology compulsion(yeast promoting fequencies), sunlight avoidance, etc.

https://www.biospace.com/article/data-supports-use-of-anti-parasitic-drug-ivermectin-in-covid-19-patients-study-shows
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/covid-19-1-in-3-diagnosed-with-brain-or-mental-health-condition
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/yeast_infection_linked_to_mental_illness
https://www.livescience.com/superbug-fungus-spread-covid19-hospitals.html
https://www.everydayhealth.com/coronavirus/your-mask-may-be-causing-candida-growth-in-your-mouth/


https://archive.dhakatribune.com/world/2021/04/03/study-sunlight-destroys-covid-8-times-faster-than-scientists-believed
https://sunlightinstitute.org/sanitizing-with-sunlight-the-best-disinfectant-know/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3303519/

it is a sociological fact, long regarded & researched truth that every society but two has believed that evil spirits cause sickness, in addition.

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Jan 5 2022 06:25pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 5 2022 06:21pm)
So your reaction to a quantifiable, testable, reproducible branch of science coming to a conclusion you disagree with, is to reject that entire branch of science.
Its "pseudoscience" when clear genetic inheritance can be shown in study after study, in conditions demonstrably not biased on social, economical, racial or ethnic basis.

I don't see any difference between your brand of anti-science and the people who reject all scientific evidence of global warming, or safety of GMO foods, or nuclear energy, or vaccines. There's no shortage of people who would claim that vaccines are a pseudoscience and point to the history of regulatory missteps like thalidomide or electroshock therapy. The main difference between human intelligence psychometrics and most other soft sciences and psychology is that you can actually isolate variables and set up reproducible studies to test hypotheses instead of just spreading dogmatic postulates the other fields believe in like 'diversity is always good'. The findings in The Bell Curve weren't based on speculation or pseudoscience, they stuck to the evidence and stated how much or how little it could demonstrate conclusively.


Bullshit. They actively misrepresented the data, including cherry picking the lower results and misrepresenting published findings to say they are applicable to the black population as a whole.

They took a matrix test that was done in Africa that doesn't translate to IQ, took the lower result from the poorer group, converted it to IQ even though it doesn't convert cleanly to IQ, and then said "this is the average result for South Africa". They were supremely dishonest and racist and literally nobody in psychology takes their book seriously.




inb4 giant wall of text because you think being long-winded is the same thing as being correct

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