I was talking about the insurrection at the Capitol, not about Trump's efforts to make state AGs or legislatures overturn the election. I've said multiple times that I consider these actions more dangerous and more morally wrong than the actual storming of the Capitol, despite the latter providing much worse imagery.

But yeah, on a very fundamental level, it definitely is the case that the vast majority of people are placing greater importance on policy and partisan tribalism than on upholding abstract norms and democratic principles. At the end of the day, people care about politics because of the impact that policies are having on their lives. If giving up on the core of why politics matters to the people is the invevitable by-product of punishing a politician or party for democratic transgressions... then democracy is doomed. This issue (not being able to vote against tactics from your own side without having to suffer through the policy wins of the other side) is of course exacerbated by a strict two-party system. Even a first-past-the-post system like Canada's does not have this problem to the same extent because they have 3 major parties.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-white-women-who-just-elected-glenn-youngkin-are-killing-america?ref=scroll

left-wing media is mad that white women in Virginia voted for the white candidate instead of the white candidate for Gov. so they go on an insidious and unhinged misogyny-laced rant

meanwhile the winners in VA for state office include a black female for Lt Gov and a hispanic male for state AG. neither are lefty (D)s

it will never cease to amaze me how much the self proclaimed anti racists are obsessed with race

The Republican victory allowed Winsome Sears (talk about an awesome first name!!) to become the first female, non-white Lt. governor in any Southern state.
https://fortune.com/2021/11/03/winsome-sears-makes-history-by-becoming-the-first-woman-of-color-to-serve-as-virginias-lieutenant-governor/

Have there ever been racists who failed harder at being racist than present-day Republicans?


Oh well, I guess she can still be framed as "the black face of white supremacy".

This is the kind of crap that drives people to vote GOP. Dems need to look in a fucking mirror and understand that they do a shitty job at convincing people. To quote Jeff Daniels from Newsroom "If liberals are so fucking smart, why do they lose so god damn always?"

they’re not smart. they just think they are. and the classic liberal is gone, survived only by people like snowden, greenwald, and fucking carville of all individuals

look at our hardcore resident lefties here. not smart, sucker for propaganda, and net-negatives to society. different same side of the same coin as idiot ultra conservatives.

as you so eloquently put it they should be replaced by hardworking immigrants

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CRT played a much bigger role in the Virginia campaign than in New Jersey, yet the gubernatorial race in New Jersey saw a similar-sized Democratic underperformance as that in Virginia. The top issue of the Republican in NJ, Ciattarelli, were property taxes. Despite CRT playing a much different role in the two races, both ended up the same ~12 point swing from Biden's results a year prior.


If "Republicans and the electorate are still fucking racist" is the main takeaway for Democrats and guides their strategy for the midterms, they are in for a very rude awakening.

only that racist user would claim voters electing one white candidate over a another white candidate (a clinton bag boy from back in the day no less), who are both connected in the professional sector to the same firm, as something to due with race lmao

Also, the margins in the VA gubernatiorial, LG and AG races were pretty much identical, meaning that the vast vast majority of Republican voters has voted for the black LG and hispanic AG candidates of the GOP.
Worst. Racists. Ever.