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Dec 24 2020 10:45am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 24 2020 10:43am)
This is Trump's chance to show everybody he's not McConnel's bitch.


He is McConnels bitch. It certainly isn't the other way around. I can't remember a single time McConnell ever bowed or caved to Trump unless it directly benefited or was what he wanted. He's the one running the show.
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Dec 24 2020 11:01am
Quote (Thor123422 @ 24 Dec 2020 08:43)
This is Trump's chance to show everybody he's not McConnel's bitch.


Show everyone how?

Is he supposed to immediately Veto the bill and face a vote to overturn the veto? Sit on the Bill for 10 days? Sign the Bill and complain "it wasn't enough"?

Which course of action is it you recommend exactly? If he vetos the bill, and the supermajority vote that the bill was passed on holds, then his veto is overturned, and he looks like an idiot and will be accused of attempting to shut down the government and prevent pandemic relief, defense funding, and a host of other items. If he sits on the bill for 10 days, then we're facing a partial government shutdown that could directly impact vaccine distribution, defense funding, and a host of other items. If he signs the bill, then then he'll be accused of funding foreign nations while businesses are closing forever all over the nation and throwing mere pennies back to the public as a consolation prize.

The entire scenario is merely a trap that will be blamed on Trump no matter the result. Attaching the covid relief bill to the 2021 appropriations bill was an incredibly clever way for both Pelosi AND McConnel to shift the blame and focus from their 8 months of inaction from themselves to Trump.
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Dec 24 2020 11:03am
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Show everyone how?

Is he supposed to immediately Veto the bill and face a vote to overturn the veto? Sit on the Bill for 10 days? Sign the Bill and complain "it wasn't enough"?


Veto the bill, go on Fox, NewsMax, OAN and call McConnel a bitch who needs to be outed unless he passes 2k stimulus.

Set himself up as a Democrat to run in 2024 pushing for universal healthcare, UBI, etc. etc.
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Dec 24 2020 11:04am
Quote (Thor123422 @ 24 Dec 2020 09:03)
Veto the bill, go on Fox, NewsMax, OAN and call McConnel a bitch who needs to be outed unless he passes 2k stimulus.

Set himself up as a Democrat to run in 2024 pushing for universal healthcare, UBI, etc. etc.


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Dec 24 2020 11:05am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Dec 24 2020 11:04am)
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Then when Republicans are like "why are you running as a dem?" he says some shit like "I WAS NEVER AN ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN! I GO WHERE THE PEOPLE NEED ME!" and then 40% of the Republican party registers as democrats and sweep the nation, crushing Republicans. This has been his plan from the start. ALL HAIL EMPEROR DONALD! GIVE US OUR STIMMIES AAND HEALTHCARE!
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Dec 24 2020 11:08am
Quote (Thor123422 @ 24 Dec 2020 09:05)
Then when Republicans are like "why are you running as a dem?" he says some shit like "I WAS NEVER AN ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN! I GO WHERE THE PEOPLE NEED ME!" and then 40% of the Republican party registers as democrats and sweep the nation, crushing Republicans. This has been his plan from the start. ALL HAIL EMPEROR DONALD! GIVE US OUR STIMMIES AAND HEALTHCARE!


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Dec 24 2020 12:19pm
I domt get it trump saying the 600 is a joke but when the 2000 gonna get passed he doesnt want it
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Dec 24 2020 01:06pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Dec 24 2020 11:01am)
Show everyone how?

Is he supposed to immediately Veto the bill and face a vote to overturn the veto? Sit on the Bill for 10 days? Sign the Bill and complain "it wasn't enough"?

Which course of action is it you recommend exactly? If he vetos the bill, and the supermajority vote that the bill was passed on holds, then his veto is overturned, and he looks like an idiot and will be accused of attempting to shut down the government and prevent pandemic relief, defense funding, and a host of other items. If he sits on the bill for 10 days, then we're facing a partial government shutdown that could directly impact vaccine distribution, defense funding, and a host of other items. If he signs the bill, then then he'll be accused of funding foreign nations while businesses are closing forever all over the nation and throwing mere pennies back to the public as a consolation prize.

The entire scenario is merely a trap that will be blamed on Trump no matter the result. Attaching the covid relief bill to the 2021 appropriations bill was an incredibly clever way for both Pelosi AND McConnel to shift the blame and focus from their 8 months of inaction from themselves to Trump.


If whatever he does he is screwed he may as well do what will relieve people in the pandemic
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Dec 24 2020 05:41pm
Out of curiosity... Has anyone bothered to toss the Bill into a pdf editor, remove the silly margins, and reduce the text size to make the bill the roughly 2K pages it should be? I may do so at some point, but not honestly interested in reading through it to the extent that such would be necessary until it's passed or amended.
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Dec 24 2020 06:05pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 24 2020 09:03am)
Veto the bill, go on Fox, NewsMax, OAN and call McConnel a bitch who needs to be outed unless he passes 2k stimulus.

Set himself up as a Democrat to run in 2024 pushing for universal healthcare, UBI, etc. etc.


always said this.. trump is the real RINO... If he could take his cult following to the other side we could actually MAGA
Union Rights
Health Care
Etc.
He only cares about being in power, let the cult change their entire mind set and MAGA
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