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Sep 25 2020 10:04am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Sep 25 2020 10:37am)
How do courts come to terms with the "no knock" permission and the conflict of the 4th Amendment. Has anybody ever laid this out? Probable cause would have to be SUPER high IMO.
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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


unfortunately not. in america on a warrant application "search for present narcotics" = "guns likely also present"

dude i went to highschool with was the small town's pot dealer. one day he got a big drop off, like 2 pounds in 4 deliveries all a HP each. cops waited until all 4 deliveries, then when the last one was in came in guns blazing. all because one informant said he might have a gun, he didnt, only weapon present was a dull buck knife.

try to remember phrases like "probable cause", "reasonable suspicion", etc aren't the same as how we'd use them talking. they're legal terms based on hundreds of years of caselaw precedent. many of these "reasonable" things are still very objectionable.
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Quote (inkanddagger @ 23 Sep 2020 22:51)
I don't care about human life. If someone could create a way to end all human life on earth without harming the rest of nature I'd be all for it.

But, as long as humans are here, I will advocate against authoritarianism. Humans who give their lives to the cause of the repression of others have forfeited their lives in my opinion.




dis u?
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Sep 25 2020 01:25pm
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Nope. As any true regular of PaRD will recall, I have long advocated for the humane reduction of the human population through reduced fertility rather than any violent or harmful means.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 25 2020 08:45am)
What do you mean come to terms, it's right there in the text. Emphasize 'unreasonable' & 'probable cause'.

Cops have to get a warrant for a search & seizure. The warrant is only approved if there's some sort of evidence which qualifies as a reason or probable cause.

Only issue i see with this case is possibly that warrant was based on made up or inflated evidence.



We all know about the rubber stamping of whatever the cops shove in the faces of the right wing judges.
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Sep 25 2020 01:28pm
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Nope. As any true regular of PaRD will recall, I have long advocated for the humane reduction of the human population through reduced fertility rather than any violent or harmful means.



your post there said otherwise tho? youd be fine with “eliminating humans so long as nature isnt harmed”
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Sep 25 2020 04:21pm
What does everyone think of the hivemind hyperventilating about Barkley's and Shaq's comments?

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"It's bad a young lady lost her life. But we do have to take into account that her boyfriend did shoot at the cops and shot a cop. So, like I said, even though I'm really sad she lost her life, I don't think this is something we can put in the same situation as George Floyd or Ahmaud Arbery."


O'Neal, a deputized sheriff in both Georgia and Florida, also felt Taylor's death could be distinguished by the presence of a warrant.

"I have to agree with Charles, this one is sort of lumped in," O'Neal said. "You have to get a warrant signed and some states do allow no-knock warrants. And everyone was asking for murder charges. When you talk about murder, you have to show intent. A homicide occurred and we're sorry a homicide occurred. When you have a warrant signed by the judge, you are doing your job, and I would imagine that you would fire back."
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Sep 25 2020 04:24pm
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What does everyone think of the hivemind hyperventilating about Barkley's and Shaq's comments?


I think the Taylor case is closer to the Arbery case because it shows corruption with the organizations themselves.
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Sep 25 2020 04:38pm
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r/conservative thought the cop was hilarious and that the protestor deserved it. I have to imagine that this sort of thing is encouraged.
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