Wheeler is center right, you're far right. He's as far left as your thumb is from your pinky finger, but still on the right hand.




By giving into our demands? Because police abuse against people has backfired.

Otherwise your post makes no sense.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Sep 2 2020 05:33pm

if political science was something they taught in kindergarten, this would be the quality of the ideas taught to 5 year olds

Liberals on this forum spent his whole presidency calling Obama a pansy. I didn't see one hundredth the cult activity for Obama that I see for Trump.

Obama didnt have a consistent brand the way Trump does. Sure, Obama ran an iconic campaign in 08 and gave well-written, high-spirited speeches throughout his presidency, but other than that he was all over the place.

First, he was the big uniter and reached across the aisle to work with Republicans, later he was all "fuck you" and governed via EOs.
First, he was the deporter in chief, later he pivoted towards wokeness and passed DACA.
First, he tried to be a peacebuilder on foreign policy, then his actions and inaction were both so misguided that they set the entire Middle East on fire and Putin could steal the Crimea with impunity.
And so on and on...

The only thing he consistently did was bloating the federal bureaucracy.


That point aside: Obama already faced huge pushback from the electorate as is, I dont think it would have helped his situation in any way if he had more boldly pursued a progressive agenda.

Obama initially tried to reach across the aisle, but by the end of his first term it was clear Republicans were not willing to conceded on ANYTHING. There were several leaked memos saying "All Republicans vote against everything Obama wants, no matter what it is", and they held up his judge appointments for years. By the end Obama said fuck it and did a bunch of EOs, when he should have taken it to the people and pointed out how the GOP was holding up the court system for politics.

The deporter in chief thing was only ever rhetoric. He didn't exactly make deporting a priority, he just abused Bush's change to the way they count to make himself look better so he could try to sway Republicans. Again, not really pushing things where they needed to go.

Obama's foreign policy was mostly a continuation of Bush's drone campaign, which Trump has also continued. But you won't hear about the drone campaign under Trump, because Republicans only cared about it because Obama did it. It was Obama being a pussy and not being willing to push the status quo where it needed to be.

Obama had a consistent theme, and it was trying to work across the aisle and then giving token resistance when it didn't work. He was too much of a pussy to take his cause to the people even when he had overwhelming support. He could have taken the obstruction of his judicial appointments to the people and gotten support, he could have pushed for a public option which is still hugely popular, etc. etc. But he didn't. He largely folded when faced with opposition and just did what Democrats always do. Give corporate interests what they want.

While I dont agree with all of your points, this was a good and insightful read!

Btw: I didnt mean to imply that all the stuff I listed was Obama's fault, I just mentioned it to explain why Obama had a less clearly defined brand (and thus less cult potential) than Trump.

It appears you have never taken a polisci class.

So it sounds like the feds have finally started acting to end the permanent riots in portland with a kind of roundabout measure
Instead of invoking the insurrection act and sending in federal troops, and with the state DA refusing to prosecute any rioters, the feds found a loophole they can use to press federal charges-
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1301282609717063680
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/oregon-state-police-troopers-deputized-by-federal-government/283-37a20404-cb6e-4502-9dde-441bff3347a9
The feds have cross-deputized state troopers who are complementing the police force, making them crimes against them under federal jurisdiction despite them being state patrols.
Originally the state patrol was deputized to enter the federal courthouse and assist there, but now they're extending that to officers throughout the downtown.

So for the first time, rioters in downtown are being charged with federal crimes for assaulting police. Those arrested won't get to walk free, won't get their charges dismissed, and bypass Mike Schmidt's pro-antifa state DA office entirely. And of course, when convicted there's no slap on the wrist and release, no diversion program, no parole.

I wish Obama had done this to the Tea Party. Too bad.

That said, Kate Brown could stop this from happening, but she won't (just like Ted Wheeler allowed the PPD to continue assaulting peaceful demonstrators). Because Democrats aren't the left and don't give a fuck about the left.

The Tea Party wasn't running around assaulting police officers for 100 nights in a row and getting away with it because the DA refused to charge them
This simply circumvents the state DA