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Jun 22 2020 11:19am
this entire thing is fucking awesome. watching a city willingly cuck itself so that a group of whites can cuck themselves in a police free zone is really peak comedy for me. electing rapper presidents, black only spaces, etc.
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Jun 22 2020 11:45am
Quote (thesnipa @ 22 Jun 2020 13:19)
this entire thing is fucking awesome. watching a city willingly cuck itself so that a group of whites can cuck themselves in a police free zone is really peak comedy for me. electing rapper presidents, black only spaces, etc.

election lmao yeah good one my friend
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election lmao yeah good one my friend


any info on the rappers path to leadership? did he have to take down Clarence and Clarence's really nice parents marriage to take the crown?
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any info on the rappers path to leadership? did he have to take down Clarence and Clarence's really nice parents marriage to take the crown?


Afaik, him and his crew were already living in this neighborhood and all the locals already... "respected their authoritah".
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Jun 22 2020 12:38pm
Washington Post "fact checkers" posted an article claiming there's no such thing as Antifa and not a single case of them at these riots and anyone claiming they exist is pushing alt-right propaganda




another in a long line of WaPo's slogan being treated as a suggestion rather than warning
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Jun 22 2020 12:42pm
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Washington Post "fact checkers" posted an article claiming there's no such thing as Antifa and not a single case of them at these riots and anyone claiming they exist is pushing alt-right propaganda


https://i.imgur.com/FASYgWy.jpg

another in a long line of WaPo's slogan being treated as a suggestion rather than warning


I mean, antifa isnt really a group as it is a philosophy, and to be "antifa" means subscribing to that philosophy. Antifa doesnt have leadership or membership or whatever so depending on the context they can be right.
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Jun 22 2020 12:43pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 22 2020 01:38pm)
Washington Post "fact checkers" posted an article claiming there's no such thing as Antifa and not a single case of them at these riots and anyone claiming they exist is pushing alt-right propaganda


https://i.imgur.com/FASYgWy.jpg

another in a long line of WaPo's slogan being treated as a suggestion rather than warning


the WaPo is correct. no one who has committed violence self identifies as Antifa. While they're committing violence they're fluidly identifying as a KKK member.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 22 2020 01:42pm)
I mean, antifa isnt really a group as it is a philosophy, and to be "antifa" means subscribing to that philosophy. Antifa doesnt have leadership or membership or whatever so depending on the context they can be right.


even in that context that's awful journalism. basically "they dont identify as antifa" (because no one can, because they dont have a perfectly stratified organizational structure that the person can adhere to).

and from reading Vivs posts it does sound like there is at least some form of organization.

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I mean, antifa isnt really a group as it is a philosophy, and to be "antifa" means subscribing to that philosophy. Antifa doesnt have leadership or membership or whatever so depending on the context they can be right.


And there are hundreds of people who are obviously self-identified antifa, follow the same views and tactics as antifa or are fellow travelers of antifa, who have been responsible for violence and arsons during the riots
There are groups of loosely associated people who have at least some degree of organization, even if its just handing out supplies and identifying roles.
Just watching any footage of it made it abundantly clear, and the evidence leftover. Who do you think brought the baseball bats wrapped in barbed wire in the antifa "medic van" to the Minneapolis protests?

WaPo posted a 'fact check' claiming they don't exist and there's not a single proven instance. Despite there being multiple proven instances in a court of law on top of hundreds of hours of footage of them.

Take this exact same ambiguity and apply it to the descriptor "alt-right". Could they say there's been zero instance of alt-right terrorism, that "alt-right" is a philosophy not a group, and virtually every right-wing pugilist who gets arrested during some brawl at a protest will then denounce and disavow the "alt-right" and say he's a classical liberal or libertarian. And then we could deny the alt-right exists at all.
But you won't see publications like WaPo doing that, they'll throw around a charged label with pejorative connotations wantonly as long as its against the 'other side'. Heck they probably called Andy Ngo alt-right at some point.

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And there are hundreds of people who are obviously self-identified antifa, follow the same views and tactics as antifa or are fellow travelers of antifa, who have been responsible for violence and arsons during the riots
Just watching any footage of it made it abundantly clear.

WaPo posted a 'fact check' claiming they don't exist and there's not a single proven instance. Despite there being multiple proven instances in a court of law on top of hundreds of hours of footage of them.

Take this exact same ambiguity and apply it to the descriptor "alt-right". Could they say there's been zero instance of alt-right terrorism, that "alt-right" is a philosophy not a group, and virtually every right-wing pugilist who gets arrested during some brawl at a protest will then denounce and disavow the "alt-right" and say he's a classical liberal or libertarian. And then we could deny the alt-right exists at all.
But you won't see publications like WaPo doing that, they'll throw around a charged label with pejorative connotations wantonly as long as its against the 'other side'. Heck they probably called Andy Ngo alt-right at some point.


they could say that about the alt right, they just never will.
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Jun 22 2020 01:36pm
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any info on the rappers path to leadership? did he have to take down Clarence and Clarence's really nice parents marriage to take the crown?


No doubt he went to Cranbrook.
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