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Mar 10 2020 10:54pm
Quote (excellence @ 10 Mar 2020 23:33)
https://twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/status/1237464286022316033

"i'm surprised Sanders is joining Trump" -Biden

wow what a way to dunk on your opponent lmfao


Unless I am missing something, what is Biden referring to here? He seems to have completely missed or misunderstood the reporter's question. My understanding is that the reporter was asking about the exchange Biden had between him and a citizen regarding the 2nd Amendment, nothing to do with Sanders.
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Mar 11 2020 01:20am
Quote (Goomshill @ 10 Mar 2020 22:28)
The red flag laws have been direct gun grabbing initiatives. Local governments have been passing hard bans and draconian penalties like NY. I think its absolutely fair to criticize someone who folds that agenda into his campaign, even if Democrats have danced around it at the federal level thus far. Its like when Republicans crusade against Democrats trying to legalize late-term abortions. They'll dance around it at the federal level, proudly champion it at the state and local level.
If there's one concern driven more by real fears than just hysteria, the gun grabbing issue is it. The democrats have made no secret they really are coming for your guns and making serious pushes to ban guns in ways they've avoided before. And Joe Biden drafting O'Rourke should be taken as a sign he's serious.


This so much. Just look at what happened in Virginia: as soon as the Democrats had trifecta control over state government, they drafted a draconian gun bill, and conservatives and gun rights groups had to flex and mobilize to an unprecedented degree (remember the massive gun rights march on Richmond) to barely stop the bill. And that's just a D+1 state.

Quote (thesnipa @ 10 Mar 2020 22:32)
i just disagree. i think even with 4 years and congress it lingers in arguments from congressmen knowing they have to go back to a constituency that's not going to like it.


But that's the point: gun violence has become a more salient issue for liberals in recent years, and ever-increasing polariziation means that Democrats are less and less dependent on pro-gun voters. Their own constituency overwhelmingly will LIKE, not dislike, tighter gun laws. In places like Virginia, they have found a coalition which is able to win a majority without any pro-gun folks.


Quote (ThatAlex @ 11 Mar 2020 05:16)
Damn, Biden won Michigan by 15 points. Fifteen points. This is truly over.


Next week, Bernie will get btfo'd in Florida, with Biden being projected to trounce him by a 40% margin. Things arent looking any good for Sanders in Ohio, Illinois or Georgia either.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 11 2020 01:20am)
This so much. Just look at what happened in Virginia: as soon as the Democrats had trifecta control over state government, they drafted a draconian gun bill, and conservatives and gun rights groups had to flex and mobilize to an unprecedented degree (remember the massive gun rights march on Richmond) to barely stop the bill. And that's just a D+1 state.



But that's the point: gun violence has become a more salient issue for liberals in recent years, and ever-increasing polariziation means that Democrats are less and less dependent on pro-gun voters. Their own constituency overwhelmingly will LIKE, not dislike, tighter gun laws. In places like Virginia, they have found a coalition which is able to win a majority without any pro-gun folks.




Next week, Bernie will get btfo'd in Florida, with Biden being projected to trounce him by a 40% margin. Things arent looking any good for Sanders in Ohio, Illinois or Georgia either.


gun violence has been a liberal issue since columbine. they went through Clinton years and did nothing then 2 terms of all talk under Obama.
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gun violence has been a liberal issue since columbine. they went through Clinton years and did nothing then 2 terms of all talk under Obama.


During those times, the Dems still had a lot more support in rural America and among the white working-class. Now that the Dems are almost exclusively the party of urban and suburban voters, they risk a lot less by putting the screws on.





James Clyburn calling for the Sunday debate to be cancelled:
https://mobile.twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1237553168529027074?s=19

:rofl:
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During those times, the Dems still had a lot more support in rural America and among the white working-class. Now that the Dems are almost exclusively the party of urban and suburban voters, they risk a lot less by putting the screws on.





James Clyburn calling for the Sunday debate to be cancelled:
https://mobile.twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1237553168529027074?s=19

:rofl:


i will admit that its shifted in priority, due to demographics like u say. i still dont see it as an action-able item for them in the current climate to the level that gun nuts fear. and i still have yet to see an actual plan for a bill, rather than "assault weapons" talk.
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i will admit that its shifted in priority, due to demographics like u say. i still dont see it as an action-able item for them in the current climate to the level that gun nuts fear. and i still have yet to see an actual plan for a bill, rather than "assault weapons" talk.


Well, they will of course not act on the issue on the federal level - but on the state and local level, and we've already seen plenty of examples for this piecemeal strategy.
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Well, they will of course not act on the issue on the federal level - but on the state and local level, and we've already seen plenty of examples for this piecemeal strategy.


yes, but the original topic here is a gun nut yelling at Joe Biden accusing him of wanting to gun grab on a national level. and in the case of state and local changes it's not likely to come with federal overview. they dont need or want biden to get involved if they're doing something in San Fran or Seattle.
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Mar 11 2020 06:42am
Quote (thesnipa @ 11 Mar 2020 13:27)
yes, but the original topic here is a gun nut yelling at Joe Biden accusing him of wanting to gun grab on a national level. and in the case of state and local changes it's not likely to come with federal overview. they dont need or want biden to get involved if they're doing something in San Fran or Seattle.


It will still make a big difference whether the federal government backs those local-level gun-grabbing efforts or not.
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Mar 11 2020 06:43am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 11 2020 07:16am)
During those times, the Dems still had a lot more support in rural America and among the white working-class. Now that the Dems are almost exclusively the party of urban and suburban voters, they risk a lot less by putting the screws on.





James Clyburn calling for the Sunday debate to be cancelled:
https://mobile.twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1237553168529027074?s=19

:rofl:



DNC is so open about the debate thing. Changing the debate be seated instead of standing and answering atttendees questions rather than be a 1v1 ft5 bloodbath. They know that Biden gets the nomination and the only thing that could tank him is the debates where he could have a or multiple catastrophic showings.

Either way shielding him now won't matter when he has to debate with Trump, can't possibly dodge then.
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Mar 11 2020 06:44am
Quote (ThatAlex @ 11 Mar 2020 00:54)
Unless I am missing something, what is Biden referring to here? He seems to have completely missed or misunderstood the reporter's question. My understanding is that the reporter was asking about the exchange Biden had between him and a citizen regarding the 2nd Amendment, nothing to do with Sanders.



I don’t think he even knows
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