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Jan 5 2020 08:35am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 5 Jan 2020 15:12)
dodge


guess that's what you have to resort to when you can't refute my point that hillary would not have just canceled the deal and cornered iran for the sake of escalation. it's funny how you never actually address the argument, always resort to some idiotic strawman... cultists gonna cult i guess...
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Jan 5 2020 08:47am
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WW2 was a mistake. We shoulda let Germany take over the whole continent when they had the chance. Our life would be much easier right now if we were dealing with Germans.



careful my friend - you may overexcite a certain user here: https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=138769
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Jan 5 2020 08:48am
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Because a lot of what they do doesn’t serve the interests of most Americans.

6 trillion is the cost of Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. That’s enough to fix our infrastructure, partially subsidize preventive care & many other good things that from an utilitarian perspective would make most Americans better off.

Instead we got more people hating us in 3rd world countries, more dead soldiers, dead civilians, population displacements, starvation, etc. Its time for us to become like Canada.


I'm not disagreeing with any of that but it also has nothing to do with military intelligence.

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guess that's what you have to resort to when you can't refute my point that hillary would not have just canceled the deal and cornered iran for the sake of escalation. it's funny how you never actually address the argument, always resort to some idiotic strawman... cultists gonna cult i guess...


How can someone prove a hypothetical situation to be false?



This post was edited by fuzzy159 on Jan 5 2020 08:51am
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Jan 5 2020 08:56am
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How can someone prove a hypothetical situation to be false?


it's called common sense, political record, policy stances, and public statements. they lead to educated opinions regarding such szenarios, which clearly suggest his hypothetical was significantly flawed. you're welcome.
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Jan 5 2020 08:59am
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it's called common sense, political record, policy stances, and public statements. they lead to educated opinions regarding such szenarios, which clearly suggest his hypothetical was significantly flawed. you're welcome.


So you are still just making an education guess.

Arguing hypotheticals is even more ridiculous than arguing politics....and yet people feel the need to combine the two :rolleyes:
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Jan 5 2020 09:08am
Oh shit...

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Iraqi Parliament Votes in Favor of Expelling U.S. Troops
Vote poses a pivotal test to American forces that have been instrumental in the defeat of Islamic State

BREAKING: Iraqi Parliament votes to expel U.S. troops from the country, after airstrike that killed top Iranian military leader
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Jan 5 2020 09:14am
This sort of stuff is the EXACT opposite of what tRump campaigned on. But his followers don't care they just like to bow and worship.
which is how he likes it. I don't really oppose the move so much as cant stand the almost masturbation status of the reaction.. And from what tRump used to say.
IE tweets etc. ===Cult
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Jan 5 2020 09:19am
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So you are still just making an education guess.

Arguing hypotheticals is even more ridiculous than arguing politics....and yet people feel the need to combine the two :rolleyes:


there is a huge difference between wild speculation about a topic that we have no information about, and the policy stances and records of certain politicians. trying to make it sound like a completely random guess is rather disingenuous.

i can say with confidence that clinton would not have withdrawn from the paris accord or the iran deal, based on her record and comments regarding the issues of iran and climate change for example. i could not make a similarly confident 'guess' about what you would do if you were drafted into the military to become cannon fodder in the middle east, simply because i have never seen you make a statement about it, and i don't know anything about you. is that really so hard to understand, or are you just pretending it is, in order to make a completely reasonable assumption sound like a wild guess?
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Jan 5 2020 09:26am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jan 5 2020 04:08pm)
Oh shit...


Was to be expected tbh. Iraq has to save face vs Iran too. I mean, Pakistan huffed and puffed when the OBL raid happened, and OBL isn't an official state actor.
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Jan 5 2020 09:30am
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Oh shit...


So... Trump killed one of Iran's top generals, dealing a big blow to their overseas operations and terrorism infrastructure while also embarrassing them on the world stage and stressing the point that America is not to be fucked with - and now he gets a golden ticket to bring back the troops from Iraq, something he had wanted to do for a long time, all while both him and his country can save face?

5d chess confirmed? I think so!!! :rofl: :bonk:


and just so fender doesnt get triggered into writing a 10 chapter rage essay: /s

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 5 2020 09:31am
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