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Nov 27 2016 09:53pm
Quote (majorblood @ Nov 27 2016 07:43pm)
knowing the issues isn't even important in the decision making process


I don't think I could disagree more. If you don't know an issue standpoint you can't understand if you fundamentally agree or disagree with a candidate.

I can't pretend to make a rational decision about a candidate without at least pretending like I made an objective observation

edit: This is in the context of rational/emotional. I personally agree with your post. I'm devils advocating now.

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Nov 27 2016 10:00pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Nov 27 2016 05:14pm)
So you believe in a flat earth, but you also believe in global warming?


just explained this yesterday in another thread. Geocentricity is not merely a thing that was from the Bible - although some people who also believe the bible also believe Flat Earth, but not all Flat Earthers are bible people. Essential Geocentricity has been used by most cultures and religions in different ways and really its a Cosmological belief that is and was much more common than heliocentric until the C of E adapted the Copernican model without question and have been shoving it down peoples throats since they were old enough to think.

Vedic, Hindu, Buddhist, Egyptian, Nordic, Inca, Aztec, Hopi, Hebrew and Islamic religion have all used it and are just a few examples.

As for myself im not particularity religious, and my belief in God is Agnostic but thats not to say i dont believe in a creator, just that no one probably knows what he/she/it/them wants or even is, or if there even is one.

I believe satellites are launched with balloons into a geostationary "stasis" and so i believe the data is somewhat trust worthy

Also living in Canada - Its freezing here for over half the year and ive noticed a huge difference in winter and weather in general
so i believe excess CO2 is man made and is responsible

then there is this Mit scientist who discovered an impenetrable layer (aka the plasmasphere, aka the firmament) past the van allen belt - and yeah it total makes sense were are in a bubble

While excess co2 has nothing to do with flat earth/geocentricity

That being said, if the Earth is flat - its probably in the firmament which tends to hold in excess co2 within which is a significant factor in determining the weather and temperature on earth.

http://scitechdaily.com/van-allen-probes-reveal-impenetrable-barrier-space/

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Nov 27 2016 10:07pm
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just explained this yesterday in another thread. Geocentricity is not merely a thing that was from the Bible - although some people who also believe the bible also believe Flat Earth, but not all Flat Earthers are bible people. Essential Geocentricity has been used by most cultures and religions in different ways and really its a Cosmological belief that is and was much more common than heliocentric until the C of E adapted the Copernican model without question and have been shoving it down peoples throats since they were old enough to think.

Vedic, Hindu, Buddhist, Egyptian, Nordic, Inca, Aztec, Hopi, Hebrew and Islamic religion have all used it and are just a few examples.

As for myself im not particularity religious, and my belief in God is Agnostic but thats not to say i dont believe in a creator, just that no one probably knows what he/she/it/them wants or even is, or if there even is one.

I believe satellites are launched with balloons into a geostationary "stasis" and so i believe the data is somewhat trust worthy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfsBpwy2DhA
Also living in Canada - Its freezing here for over half the year and ive noticed a huge difference in winter and weather in general
so i believe excess CO2 is man made and is responsible

then there is this Mit scientist who discovered an impenetrable layer (aka the plasmasphere, aka the firmament) past the van allen belt - and yeah it total makes sense were are in a bubble

While excess co2 has nothing to do with flat earth/geocentricity

That being said, if the Earth is flat - its probably in the firmament which tends to hold in excess co2 within which is a significant factor in determining the weather and temperature on earth.

http://scitechdaily.com/van-allen-probes-reveal-impenetrable-barrier-space/


Are there no issues between modern environmental science (which is based on the Spherical Earth model) which describes global warming, and the Flat Earth model? I don't know much environmental science, but it seems likely that there are things in environmental science that rely on a Spherical Earth model.
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Nov 27 2016 10:13pm
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Are there no issues between modern environmental science (which is based on the Spherical Earth model) which describes global warming, and the Flat Earth model? I don't know much environmental science, but it seems likely that there are things in environmental science that rely on a Spherical Earth model.


I dont know of any issue in Environmental Science that requires Earth to be a sphere, the only part of science that is questionable is peoples faith in Gravity and since no one can prove it, its non existence is not really a factor except in people mind.

4 experiments that prove geocentricity and are never mention in any undergraduate physics program
Michelson-Morley Experiment
Airy's Failure
The Michelson-Gale experiment
The Sagnet Experiment

You can learn about them here:

http://cyberspaceandtime.com/Geocentricity_The_Earth_is_not_Spinning_or_Moving_At_All!/JkI8JhW9Az0.video

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Nov 27 2016 10:15pm
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I dont know of any issue in Environmental Science that requires Earth to be a sphere, the only part of science that is questionable is peoples faith in Gravity and since no one can prove it, its non existence is not really a factor except in people mind.


I keep telling myself that I won't respond to these but as a science educated individual I keep getting triggered. What about gravity is it you don't think we can prove?
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Nov 27 2016 10:19pm
in card sultan's film everyone is irrational and he's the rational one
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Nov 27 2016 10:28pm
Quote (Impose @ Nov 27 2016 06:15pm)
I keep telling myself that I won't respond to these but as a gravity indoctered individual I keep getting triggered. What about gravity is it you don't think we can prove?


Any part of it. Its all faith.


Quote (majorblood @ Nov 27 2016 06:19pm)
in card sultan's film everyone is irrational and he's the rational one


Someone took the blue pill and doesn't realize it yet....

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Nov 27 2016 10:38pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Nov 27 2016 08:28pm)
Any part of it. Its all faith.




Someone took the blue pill and doesn't realize it yet....


Any part of it? What? Its faith that you jump and come back down?
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Nov 27 2016 10:41pm
Quote (Impose @ Nov 27 2016 11:38pm)
Any part of it? What? Its faith that you jump and come back down?


50 years from now when you're lying on your death bed wishing you had more time to live, you will regret the hours spent debating gravity with an internet troll :o
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Nov 27 2016 10:44pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Nov 27 2016 08:41pm)
50 years from now when you're lying on your death bed wishing you had more time to live, you will regret the hours spent debating gravity with an internet troll :o


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