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Quote (Scaly @ Aug 3 2015 09:44pm)
Better question actually - how come carbon dating is reliable in your eyes when used to date the Dead Sea scrolls but not to tell us the earth is more than 10k years old?


Nice couple of edits, and i'll give you a real simple answer.

A) Carbon dating is accurate up to 50,000 years, so asking why it might not be accurate in determining millions or even billions of years is well...nonsensical.

B ) You assume i believe the earth is only 6000 years old. You should refer to a post of mine where i addressed what i think of the "time" dilemma of the genesis creation.

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Nice couple of edits, and i'll give you a real simple answer.

A) Carbon dating is accurate up to 50,000 years, so asking why it might not be accurate in determining millions or even billions of years is well...nonsensical.

B ) You assume i believe the earth is only 6000 years old. You should refer to a post of mine where i addressed what i think of the "time" dilemma of the genesis creation.


How old do you think the earth is about?
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Is ofthevoid a YEC? Or did Scaly make a funny for the special needs peanut gallery?


From everything he said so far I assumed he was. He said he didn't believe in 'billions of years'.

Although now he's backpedaling some...

Also an evolution denier.



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Nice couple of edits, and i'll give you a real simple answer.

A) Carbon dating is accurate up to 50,000 years, so asking why it might not be accurate in determining millions or even billions of years is well...nonsensical.

B ) You assume i believe the earth is only 6000 years old. You should refer to a post of mine where i addressed what i think of the "time" dilemma of the genesis creation.


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How old do you think the earth is about?


This.

- Also radiometric dating using the carbon 14 isotope is not used past around 10,000 years for most substances. For some it's as little as 5,000. It's not accurate up to 50,000 years. You need to stop getting all ur information from answersingenesis. Ken Ham is not a reliable source of information for anything.

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Quote (Scaly @ Aug 3 2015 10:33pm)
From everything he said so far I assumed he was. He said he didn't believe in 'billions of years'.

Although now he's backpedaling some...


- Also radiometric dating using the carbon 14 isotope is not used past around 10,000 years for most substances. For some it's as little as 5,000.It's not accurate up to 50,000 years. You need to stop getting all ur information from answersingenesis. Ken Ham is not a reliable source of information for anything.


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oldest dates that can be reliably measured by radiocarbon dating are around 50,000 years ago,


the source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating

Look i get you have some strange fascination with me today but it's late... even later where you live... and i'm sick of giving you verbal beatdowns for the day. So with that being said i'm going to bed and bid you goodnight ol chap.

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Quote (ofthevoid @ 4 Aug 2015 05:54)
the source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating

Look i get you have some strange fascination with me today but it's late... even later where you live... and i'm sick of giving you verbal beatdowns for the day. So with that being said i'm going to bed and bid you goodnight ol chap.


Wiki references check out. I stand corrected. around 50,000 years and up to 75,000 years in some cases.

Learn something new every day.

You didn't answer the question though... How old do you think the earth is?
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...you have been at your game of lies and defamation for the past 4 years . Just last week you repeated your lying bullshit about Chant so spare me your pathetic smiley face bullshit . If you were lying in the gutter on fire and I was walking by I would pause just long enough to light a cigarette off your burning flesh and flick the ashes in your screaming mouth .


dude what the fuck? :rofl:
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dude what the fuck? :rofl:


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dude what the fuck? :rofl:


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Quote (IceMage @ Aug 3 2015 09:54pm)
His stance is completely untenable. If we can't trust the text, there is no reason to believe any of it. There's no reason to believe Jesus rose from the dead, there's no reason to believe He claimed to be God, there's no reason to believe any doctrine of the church.

2 Timothy 3:16
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All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.


Why is that now? I hold certain parts of the bible to be true factually, highest among them that Jesus was son of god and the he rose. I simply dont base my faith on the shell of facts that surround that.

you said:

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If we can't trust the text, there is no reason to believe any of it.


My question is where does free will stop? Does it stop as soon as anyone attempts to make changes to the bible? If i edited a bible today and attempted to spread it around would i be struck down as i tried to hit the start button on the printing press? of course not. In this case i see that we are not trusting the text but trusting those who formulated the text long before our lifetimes. The message of god is there, i believe its there, but i dont know what portion it is with 100% accuracy. For this reason i hold the bible to be holy, knowing that it contains the word of god. I do not hold each passage to be holy, because i cant know that each individually is the word of god as he intended it.

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