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Aug 8 2024 09:59pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 8 2024 10:06pm)
That's because Phelps was a world class swimmer beneath his genetic advantage.

He was prescribed drugs and had waivers for performance enhancing drugs that would of gotten anyone else banned.
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Aug 8 2024 10:48pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 9 2024 01:06pm)
That's because Phelps was a world class swimmer beneath his genetic advantage, while Khelif isn't anything special as a boxer, just riding that size/power advantage to victory.
Note that I wasn't talking about the total advantage both athletes have over their competition, I was talking about the extent of their genetics-based advantage, which comes on top of their skill advantage (Phelps) or disadvantage (Khelif).


Such a HUGE power advantage.. 50 fight career, 9 losses, 6 wins by knockout.. almost all of her wins were by decision.
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Aug 8 2024 10:56pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 8 2024 11:06pm)
That's because Phelps was a world class swimmer beneath his genetic advantage, while Khelif isn't anything special as a boxer, just riding that size/power advantage to victory.
Note that I wasn't talking about the total advantage both athletes have over their competition, I was talking about the extent of their genetics-based advantage, which comes on top of their skill advantage (Phelps) or disadvantage (Khelif).




Phelps wasn't racing against women, either.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 9 Aug 2024 06:48)
Such a HUGE power advantage.. 50 fight career, 9 losses, 6 wins by knockout.. almost all of her wins were by decision.


On a scale from 1 to 100:

Phelps: a 97/100 on skill, then gets +2 from his genetic condition. A small boost in absolute terms, but in a professionalized sport where he is racing against lots of other athletes who score in the 94-98 range, those extra 2 points make a difference and disproportionately translate into medals and world records. But this advantage he had was small enough that subsequent generations of swimmers could quickly overcome it due to advances in sports science and take away his WRs.

Khelif: a 35/100 on skill, gets +30 from being an intersex person with male levels of testosterone. A huge boost in absolute terms. In a not very professionalized sport, Khelif faces lots of thoroughly mediocre opponents who are overpowered by her male advantage. Still doesn't translate to a lot of titles because Khelif still only reaches a 65/100 with all of the advantage and is still very beatable for the few top athletes in the field.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 8 2024 11:50pm
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Quote (blahaj @ Aug 8 2024 04:13pm)
I think it's really funny that you seem to think these warped and honestly ridiculous views regarding what left wing politics strives for. It's really, truly, honestly, not difficult at all to not offend these people if you just use your brain. Just a little bit.


too much to unpack in just a few short sentences to even bother tbh
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Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 9 2024 02:01pm)
too much to unpack in just a few short sentences to even bother tbh


Don't bother engaging in discussions with him. He is a pro at deranging threads in off-topic.
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Quote (babun1024 @ Aug 9 2024 08:39am)
Don't bother engaging in discussions with him. He is a pro at deranging threads in off-topic.


You want to say that this athlete is a trans person and further your bigotry, while the evidence thus provided shows no proof of this, you just want it to be true.

My stance on sports or athletic events in general will always be, I don't care until you force me to care.
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Quote (blahaj @ Aug 9 2024 03:41pm)
You want to say that this athlete is a trans person and further your bigotry, while the evidence thus provided shows no proof of this, you just want it to be true.

My stance on sports or athletic events in general will always be, I don't care until you force me to care.


Then gtfo this thread. I never said that person is trans, the thread isn't about trans, it's about men beating women.

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Quote (babun1024 @ Aug 9 2024 10:45am)
Then gtfo this thread. I never said that person is trans, the thread isn't about trans, it's about men beating women.


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a man born with lady parts is still a man?
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