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#211
Oct 8 2023 11:48am
Quote (tommyd323 @ Oct 8 2023 10:46am)
True. Coulda bought like 4 more gallons of milk this year if it weren’t for muh hard earned money goin to them damn israelis!


extremely dismissive and a terrible argument
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Oct 8 2023 11:50am
Quote (Malopox @ 9 Oct 2023 01:47)
You can be Team Israel and still condemn apartheid policies and blatant land grab.

You can be Team Palestine and still condemn absolutely barbaric savagery displayed by HAMAS jihadists.

There can be absolutely no excuse for indiscriminate premeditated murder of every civilian you encounter.

A long-term solution has to be found. If Israel and Palestine can’t figure it out themselves - perhaps time for UN SC to step in? This conflict is older than anyone here on PARD. How come a solution other than violence has not been found?

^Goomshill has some interesting thoughts about a DMZ. All eyes on Israel now and what comes next.


I don't think anyone trust UN anymore.
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Oct 8 2023 11:54am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 8 Oct 2023 19:50)
I don't think anyone trust UN anymore.


Well then we are unfortunately failing as species if the main tool we have to solve arguments is bombing each other back to stone age.
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Oct 8 2023 11:57am
What does a long term solution look like? There cannot be a two state solution after this, obviously. Gazans can't be expelled, where would they go? Cant fit 2 million in the Sinai. I think the DMZ is the logical outcome. Maybe the transfer of utility responsibilities to egypt and palestinians. That can work for Gaza, not the west bank
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Oct 8 2023 11:58am
Quote (Malopox @ 9 Oct 2023 01:54)
Well then we are unfortunately failing as species if the main tool we have to solve arguments is bombing each other back to stone age.


At least you have something nice to drink.
Things are too expensive on my side.
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#216
Oct 8 2023 12:00pm
This conflict is a direct result of Israel's racist policies. They need to open their border, stop building racist border walls, stop putting kids in cages.

Diversity is Israel's strength.
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Oct 8 2023 12:03pm
Quote (MyEnemy @ 9 Oct 2023 02:00)
This conflict is a direct result of Israel's racist policies. They need to open their border, stop building racist border walls, stop putting kids in cages.

Diversity is Israel's strength.


I don't think diversity is their strength at the moment or in the near future.
Extremely difficult due to current Geo Political climate.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Oct 8 2023 12:05pm
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#218
Oct 8 2023 12:09pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 8 Oct 2023 19:57)
What does a long term solution look like? There cannot be a two state solution after this, obviously. Gazans can't be expelled, where would they go? Cant fit 2 million in the Sinai. I think the DMZ is the logical outcome. Maybe the transfer of utility responsibilities to egypt and palestinians. That can work for Gaza, not the west bank


No idea.

Perhaps time to do some revisionist history decisionmaking and revert Sykes-Picot or is that too late?
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Oct 8 2023 12:12pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 8 2023 02:57pm)
What does a long term solution look like? There cannot be a two state solution after this, obviously. Gazans can't be expelled, where would they go? Cant fit 2 million in the Sinai. I think the DMZ is the logical outcome. Maybe the transfer of utility responsibilities to egypt and palestinians. That can work for Gaza, not the west bank


Long term solution would probably be the dissolution of the state of Israel, maybe a western country would be willing to create a new homeland for the Jewish people on their land. Doubt that will happen though so probably endless conflict until the middle east gets glassed.

DMZ may be logical but if logic ruled we wouldn't have had two previous world wars.
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Oct 8 2023 12:16pm
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