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May 1 2023 03:05am
Quote (Djunior @ May 1 2023 05:35pm)
You must be left of the extreme left


What do you consider extreme left?
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May 1 2023 04:51am
Woke "progressives" that loot burn and murder is a good example of far left extremism
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May 1 2023 06:29am
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What do you consider extreme left?


Anyone slightly left of Mussolini would be considered far left by Djunior. Dude consistently stans Putin in another thread.
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May 1 2023 06:40am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 29 2023 09:18am)
Pretty much. Most of us that are married have had toxic interactions. It's part of the ups and downs of marriage. Not justifying or defending his actions but I personally wouldn't jump on the hate bandwagon, because if I look at my life and relationship with my wife, there are also moments i can safely say I behaved like an ass hat. The fact this video was aired, shows she's at least somewhat vindictive and wanted to publicly destroy him.

It's pretty sad situation for him and his wife, even more so for the kids. My thoughts is because this is so public and shameful, possibility of some reconciliation oh idk 1 year, 5 years, 10 years down the line is much less probable, so really sucks for the kids.


ever told your wife you dont love her? that for me is the real red flag.

ever told your 8 months pregnant wife to put on gloves to give your dog potentially harmful to fetuses (she's carrying 2) medicine? while smoking a cigar?

my wife and i have gotten into some petty arguments, but i dont love you is off the table, and health doesnt get negated due to tension.
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May 1 2023 07:09am
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ever told your wife you dont love her? that for me is the real red flag.

ever told your 8 months pregnant wife to put on gloves to give your dog potentially harmful to fetuses (she's carrying 2) medicine? while smoking a cigar?

my wife and i have gotten into some petty arguments, but i dont love you is off the table, and health doesnt get negated due to tension.


No but i've done plenty of other toxic shit. If there was a hidden camera of all our family interactions and someone was tasked with presenting me in the worst light ever, it would be extremely easy to paint me in a really negative light. This is true even of healthy relationships. I don't really know why that interaction is so shocking to you. Yes he's being petty af, controlling, w.e. but with 50%+ marriages ending up in divorce, don't really think what he did is unique in any way.

Also I don't really understand why people are framing Crowder as some moralist. I don't follow these personalities too close, most of my exposure to them is from here or some snippets on twitter, but he never struck me as a moralist. He's the typical culture war public internet personality, you have these both on the right and left and they excel and ultimately make money by clout chasing. I think if someone like Shapiro was caught doing something like this it would be more impactful because he's the one camping on the hill of family values more than any other one of these personalities.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on May 1 2023 07:12am
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No but i've done plenty of other toxic shit. If there was a hidden camera of all our family interactions and someone was tasked with presenting me in the worst light ever, it would be extremely easy to paint me in a really negative light. This is true even of healthy relationships. I don't really know why that interaction is so shocking to you. Yes he's being petty af, controlling, w.e. but with 50%+ marriages ending up in divorce, don't really think what he did is unique in any way.

Also I don't really understand why people are framing Crowder as some moralist. I don't follow these personalities too close, most of my exposure to them is from here or some snippets on twitter, but he never struck me as a moralist. He's the typical culture war public internet personality, you have these both on the right and left and they excel and ultimately make money by clout chasing. I think if someone like Shapiro was caught doing something like this it would be more impactful because he's the one camping on the hill of family values more than any other one of these personalities.


This whole ordeal is the equivalent of a rabid anti-abortionist being caught receiving/paying for an abortion. Or a homophobic pastor being caught having relations with other men. The reason people frame Crowder as a moralist is because that's how he's presented himself from jump street. That's also why this whole thing is less than shocking.
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May 1 2023 07:22am
crowder always seemed zesty to me
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May 1 2023 07:45am
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This whole ordeal is the equivalent of a rabid anti-abortionist being caught receiving/paying for an abortion. Or a homophobic pastor being caught having relations with other men. The reason people frame Crowder as a moralist is because that's how he's presented himself from jump street. That's also why this whole thing is less than shocking.


Except it's not lol. It's a petty and toxic interaction between a husband and wife with a failing relationship which eventually ended in divorce. Hypocrisy like all things really has levels to it.
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May 1 2023 07:51am
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 1 2023 08:45am)
Except it's not lol. It's a petty and toxic interaction between a husband and wife with a failing relationship which eventually ended in divorce. Hypocrisy like all things really has levels to it.


Yes it is. That's why the response has been what it's been on social media.
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May 1 2023 07:55am
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 1 2023 08:09am)
No but i've done plenty of other toxic shit. If there was a hidden camera of all our family interactions and someone was tasked with presenting me in the worst light ever, it would be extremely easy to paint me in a really negative light. This is true even of healthy relationships. I don't really know why that interaction is so shocking to you. Yes he's being petty af, controlling, w.e. but with 50%+ marriages ending up in divorce, don't really think what he did is unique in any way.

Also I don't really understand why people are framing Crowder as some moralist. I don't follow these personalities too close, most of my exposure to them is from here or some snippets on twitter, but he never struck me as a moralist. He's the typical culture war public internet personality, you have these both on the right and left and they excel and ultimately make money by clout chasing. I think if someone like Shapiro was caught doing something like this it would be more impactful because he's the one camping on the hill of family values more than any other one of these personalities.


If this clip came from post-partum and they were both sleep deprived and going nuts, yup. 100%, been there done that.

smoking a cigar while demanding your wife who's 8 months pregnant cleans the house and handles harmful chemicals, so that she can be worthy of your love? nah.

i'm not going to write up a list of unwritten rules for lines you can't cross. but this doesn't pass the smell test, even in the "this is the worst moment and it just happened to be caught on camera".

as to why people view crowder as a moralist, it's because crowder told everyone he's a moralist. he enters comedy into his shows, parody even, but he's the one who put himself on a moral highground.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 1 2023 07:55am
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