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Apr 4 2023 11:08am
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Sweden come out with your hands up, we've got you surrounded.
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Apr 4 2023 11:26am
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor

I will pass on the xenophobic views of this fuck off, and i will stay in topic:


2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine

27 February 2022, Macgregor appeared on three Fox News he said "The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over," and predicted "If [Ukraine] don't surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them.
Macgregor said he believed Russia should be allowed to seize whatever parts of Ukraine it wanted. In his second appearance, he revised his prediction: "The first five days Russian forces I think frankly were too gentle.

Russian state television channels RT and VGTRK broadcast excerpts of Macgregor's second Carlson appearance, which included a characterization of Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy as a "puppet," that Russian forces had been "too gentle" in the early days of the invasion and that Russian president Vladimir Putin was being "demonized" by the United States and NATO.[55][61] U.S. representative Liz Cheney said of Macgregor "This is the Putin wing of the GOP."[62][63]

In a fourth appearance in early March, Macgregor said a ceasefire was close as Ukrainian forces had been "grounded to bits. There's no question about that despite what we report on our mainstream media".[55] He also defended Russia's invasion in an interview on The Grayzone, saying Putin had taken great care with civilians and this was delaying his victory.[64]

In July 2022, on Real America's Voice he told Charlie Kirk that:

"The war, with the exception of Kharkiv and Odesa, as far as the Russians are concerned is largely over. There is no intention to do anything else because the Russians don’t have a very large army... This nonsense that Putin wants to conquer all of Ukraine was never true. All he ever did in the Minsk agreement was ask that Russian speakers, Russian citizens inside Ukraine be treated equally before the law. That they not be penalized for being Russians."[65]

In September 2022, he again predicted on Carlson's show that “this war may be over soon”[66] and later in the month "the Ukrainian army is bled white, tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops have been killed or wounded, Ukraine is really on the ropes". Liz Cheney tweeted in response: "Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch - Why do you continually put Douglas MacGregor on @FoxNews to spread Putin's propaganda and lies? This is absolutely not in America's interest."[67]


bip bip bip


MacGregor is right about the Russians being too gentle, he was on the ground in the Iraq war where the coalition completely wiped out Iraqi civilian infrastructure in the first couple hours of the war. This was not a war crime btw :lol:

Zelensky is a puppet, if you didn't notice that. He's a NATO tool, if NATO stops propping him up and supplying him 24/7 Zelensky = RIP

Ukraine is being ground to bits. There literally no way to deny this.

Ukraine did not suffer tens of thousands of casualties, remember when von der Leyen slipped up and sayd 100K Ukrainian soldiers has died, that didn't include al the wounded.

Thank you again for torpedoing your own argument.


Quote (Neptunus @ Apr 3 2023 11:07pm)
Are you really as old as you claim?


First you post lies about a Finnish naval base that you claimed to be Russian, then you post shit about NATO being the hot chad scoring the chicks, I reply that the base is Finnish, not Russian and remember you what is happening to the chicks in Finland,

And you ask ME how old I am? Grow up little fellow


Quote (fender @ Apr 4 2023 12:19am)
loaded and dumb question tbh. without NATO there is no stable security situation in europe. not sure if you noticed it, but there is currently a war in europe, specifically because a country was NOT in NATO, and has a neighbour that feels entitled to its territory.

if we're talking purely hypothetical here, i wish NATO didn't even have to exist at all. unfortunately, NATO's best salesman, vladimir pootin, is currently demonstrating that it's very necessary for "a stable security situation" - and more popular than ever.


If you didn't notice, there a war raging out there and it had nothing to do with Russia constantly expanding it's military might by expanding the Warsaw pact, marching further and further West.

Dude you're honestly clueless
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Apr 4 2023 12:32pm
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If you didn't notice, there a war raging out there and it had nothing to do with Russia constantly expanding it's military might by expanding the Warsaw pact, marching further and further West.

Dude you're honestly clueless


in case you haven't noticed, the warsaw pact failed miserably over thirty years ago, and most of its former members couldn't wait to get as far away from russia as they possibly could.

this war is a result of pootin trying to re-create it, but failing miserably - because no one wants to join his shitty empire. so he just invades his neighbours and tries to take their territory by force.

if ukraine was in NATO, this never would have happened. joining NATO means freedom and peace for its members - that's why people want it. russia can't offer that - they can only offer war and dictatorship, destruction and poverty.

cope harder, kremlin bot...

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Apr 4 2023 12:58pm
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in case you haven't noticed, the warsaw pact failed miserably over thirty years ago, and most of its former members couldn't wait to get as far away from russia as they possibly could.

this war is a result of pootin trying to re-create it, but failing miserably - because no one wants to join his shitty empire. so he just invades his neighbours and tries to take their territory by force.

if ukraine was in NATO, this never would have happened. joining NATO means freedom and peace for its members - that's why people want it. russia can't offer that - they can only offer war and dictatorship, destruction and poverty.

cope harder, kremlin bot...

https://i.imgur.com/QPYFb8B.jpeg


WTF is this reply, lol

I used the Warsaw pact as a comparison, I was OBVIOUSLY pointing out ongoing NATO expansion, drone.

There's a war raging right now because Russia didn't put up with NATO plans to reel in Ukraine and Georgia (shit countries that offer nothing other than being Russia's neighbors, NATO's agenda is 100 obvious)

Keep droning, drone
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Apr 4 2023 01:04pm
Quote (Djunior @ Apr 4 2023 01:58pm)
WTF is this reply, lol

I used the Warsaw pact as a comparison, I was OBVIOUSLY pointing out ongoing NATO expansion, drone.

There's a war raging right now because Russia didn't put up with NATO plans to reel in Ukraine and Georgia (shit countries that offer nothing other than being Russia's neighbors, NATO's agenda is 100 obvious)

Keep droning, drone


Meanwhile Finland is literally invaded by NATO and is getting nuked and Russia does nothing
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Apr 4 2023 01:09pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Apr 4 2023 09:04pm)
Meanwhile Finland is literally invaded by NATO and is getting nuked and Russia does nothing


As far as I can tell Finland =/= Ukraine, no Crimea, no Sevastopol naval base and no conflict going on there. Same goes for Poland, Baltic States and so on.

But now that you're here, you should explain to us again how the sanctions crippled Russia and forced them to leave Ukraine.
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Apr 4 2023 01:22pm
Quote (Djunior @ 4 Apr 2023 19:26)
MacGregor is right about the Russians being too gentle
Thank you again for torpedoing your own argument.
And you ask ME how old I am? Grow up little fellow
Dude you're honestly clueless


Horrible clown who owned itself is actually saying that Putin did not commit enough atrocities...

Quote (Djunior @ 24 Feb 2022 09:44am)
Sure lets double down and give them hell hmm?

Let's just forget they've prepared for this for 2 decades, have completely overhauled and modernized their military and just see where this will go. Great idea dude, Russia will win this war in 2-3 months, mark my words.


"argument" Seek help troll
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Apr 4 2023 01:36pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 4 2023 09:22pm)
Horrible clown who owned itself is actually saying that Putin did not commit enough atrocities...

"argument" Seek help troll


Aha, an old post of mine proves that I'm trolling huh

The fact of the matter is that Ukraine is destroyed, just like smart people like MacGregor predicted.

YOU are wrong, the only reason that Ukraine is still standing is because of unprecedented and ongoing support for the combined West --> FACTS

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Apr 4 2023 02:23pm
Quote (Djunior @ Apr 4 2023 02:09pm)
As far as I can tell Finland =/= Ukraine, no Crimea, no Sevastopol naval base and no conflict going on there. Same goes for Poland, Baltic States and so on.

But now that you're here, you should explain to us again how the sanctions crippled Russia and forced them to leave Ukraine.


So is it a problem with NATO expansion or was it just a specific concern about the black sea?
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Apr 4 2023 02:38pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Apr 4 2023 10:23pm)
So is it a problem with NATO expansion or was it just a specific concern about the black sea?


You should look it up on the map and while you're at it, look up Ukraine + Georgia's GDP and ask yourself if these countries have something that would benefit NATO other than their geographic locations bordering Russia.

And you forgot about the sanctions that you claimed would completely cripple Russia, please elaborate

This post was edited by Djunior on Apr 4 2023 02:42pm
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