mostly agreed, but the armed conflict in ukraine is also a product of failed regime change
obviously putin stepped in, when the new regime sends the fucking army to crack down on the pro russian eastern ukraine

so many people died to force a president out with 6 months left in office and very low chances of getting another term
disgraceful

to be fair, without forcing him out, he would just have installed another Russia puppet as his successor.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 19 2018 06:21pm

maybe, but the people would still need to vote for that guy
however ukraine never got the chance to do it in a democratic, civilised and peaceful way

you need to read better champ. black made 3 assertions of differential. i had a small qualm with 1 of the 3, and allowed that he may not have meant it as a differential at all. but instead may be saying that while Obama did enact sanctions on Russia as a result of Crimea, Trump took them further.

however in the context of Black's post you're just plain wrong, as Russia hasn't attempted a land grab under Trump's presidency, Trump can't therefore have a differential from Obama in that respect. You could argue that Trump is a different president that is preventing Putin from trying, that's just fine. But you can't honestly say that Trump has stopped Putin from making land grabs.

you keep on with this stupid act, and i'm not sure why. i'm not a fan of Obama, and i hated his foreign policy most of anything in his presidency. i keep telling you this every time you try this dog and pony show. you need to work on your memory and stop tossing me in with the Obama fanboys. it just makes you look stupid, while claiming i'm feigning ignorance.

feel free to lazily respond, or read this and just not respond. like always. re-read the exchange and maybe you'll realize your mistake.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jul 20 2018 08:49am

Bezmenov pointed out that the way to destroy a nation from within is to get control of the schools and teach kids moral relativism, to teach them to distrust law enforcement, military, religion, their parents, etc. for the purpose of demoralizing the society and making it feel shame to even live in their own nation. Thats how you destroy a nation from within. Those kids grow into adults and take over all aspects of society and everything just winds up broken because nothing can function in the nation when everyone feels shame and no one trusts anything anymore.

This post was edited by Kuggergug on Jul 20 2018 09:33am

the military tactic of destroying a nation from within by teaching its children to feel shame for everything the nation did is as old as civilization. Any student of history would look at the current state of american culture and immediately recognize it as a nation under attack from within. Stable nations like russia and china are strong and educated and fully see what is going and they know they absolutely MUST back the right wing in america because if the left succeeds in destabilizing the United States with all of its nukes it could end the human race. So im telling you, this isnt going to work. The left is 100% going to lose. The rest of the world is not going to sit by passively and watch the left destabilize America. Everything is lost if that happens. If this devolves into civil unrest, Russia and China are going to send their own military in to put the left down and stop it.

They dont WANT to but there is a reason Russia is working as fast as it can to build up a massive military force in the Arctic and it aint oil.

Heres how it goes down. Once civil unrest breaks out across the US, Russia goes into overdrive to mass a huge military in the Arctic. They also bring the Chinese military in on it. 6 months later, there will be a huge freaking Chinese / Russian military contingent in the Arctic ready to sweep down through Canada into the US to put the left down to restabilize the US. and with the US split in half with most of the members of the US military supporting Trump and hating the left, they wont be able to field a resistance.

This post was edited by Kuggergug on Jul 20 2018 11:35am

So blind obedience is better than healthy skepticism?