Quote (MildSambal @ Jul 31 2023 09:30am)
Would you agree that even if the original texts were purely authored by divinity, those same texts would be subject to corruption if mistreated? Aren’t the people of this world all uniquely operating under free will? Are we not aware of the corruption that has consistently been established among rulers for all of recorded history?
Would you agree that even that which is sensible can be made unreasonable if mistranslated or misinterpreted? Would you agree that others could spread gossip about you even if untrue, that gossip alone could create controversy regarding your character?
A mirror reflects light, however a dirty mirror will no longer reflect that light in its pure form. Is this an issue with the light or the mirror?
Consider the story of Moses and Socrates as a parallel to one another. The reputation of Moses was very despicable and known as a murderer, the Egyptians hated him. Socrates was well known and respected in Greece as a wise philosopher. Yet Moses established laws and ordinances which transformed the way of life led in Israel. Socrates had traveled to Syria hoping to acquire the knowledge he heard of about the oneness of God and the immortality of mans spirit. He then returned to Greece and preached these teachings, the people of that land rose up in opposition to him, accused him of falsehoods, arraigned him before the court, and condemned him to death by poison.
Now how could a lowly shepherd who had long lived as a fugitive accomplish all that which a great philosopher could not? Moses was known as a stammerer before his great feats were recorded. What stammerer could achieve 1/1000 of what Moses achieved with the Israelites?
The materialistic thinkers, the Greek philosophers, and the great men of Rome who became renowned in the world were each versed in all but one branch of learning. Galen and Hippocrates were celebrated for their skill in medicine, Aristotle in logic and speculative reasoning, and Plato in ethics and divine philosophy. How can a mere shepherd and stammerer lay the foundation for all these branches of learning? There is no doubt that He was assisted by an extraordinary power.
I don't agree that the original text were authored by divinity because there is no proof and or incredibly weak arguments for it that i can see. You asking how Moses could accomplish magical feats and pave the foundations for the likes of Socrates and Aristotle.
Simple answer his magic tricks never happened or were greatly exaggerated. How do you spend 40 years in a desert with all that wisdom and magical powers and having "God" on your side and not get to your destination that's a few days walk? This Moses guy is literally the worst navigator in history.
Most of the bible wisdom including 10 commandments are just copy paste or reworded wisdoms from other religions or sages. Even if Moses was a wise guy doesn't mean God was involved in any way. If you think that makes guys like Moses automatically divine because of wisdom then you have to give concessions to every other sage and religious wise guy, even including crack heads that sometimes spit out snippets of wisdom beyond their expected capacity.