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#20851
Jul 4 2018 06:16pm
Quote (Horford @ Jul 4 2018 05:09pm)
What exactly are the democrats' values now (besides "going high"? Keeping foreign families together? That'll work real well foe them :rolleyes:

This


That's a good question and we are finding that out

hopefully when the dust settles stronger candidates will emerge

A moderate Republican still can do quite well going forward, conservatism isn't dead and they are very reliable

It's important for democrats to remember that while they figure things out in their party
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Jul 4 2018 06:20pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Jul 4 2018 08:16pm)
That's a good question and we are finding that out

hopefully when the dust settles stronger candidates will emerge

A moderate Republican still can do quite well going forward, conservatism isn't dead and they are very reliable

It's important for democrats to remember that while they figure things out in their party


Someone needs to completely destroy and rebuild their party the way Drumpf did
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Jul 4 2018 06:26pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 4 2018 05:20pm)
Someone needs to completely destroy and rebuild their party the way Drumpf did


conservative judges
border "strength"
tax stuff trade stuff
etcetc

He's giving the conservatives what they want just in a very different sort of package which isn't rebuilding the party it's dishonoring the brand that some still do take seriously on the right
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#20854
Jul 4 2018 06:28pm
Quote (IceMage @ 4 Jul 2018 18:12)
Maybe those who oppose Trump shouldn't entertain completely unqualified media whores for president? Part of Trump's evil genius is getting the opposition to lower themselves to his level.


Good point.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 4 Jul 2018 18:14)
Everyone was going into the debates expecting Hillary to dismantle Trump on the issues. She didnt. In the pivotal second debate, her debating him to a draw on the substance was a huge strategic loss since he was under immense pressure from the access hollywood tape which just broke a day before. He was close to a meltdown on that night, but Hillary didnt go for the 'kill' even though she probably could have. The predominating read on that 2nd debate was "he stopped the free fall".

In any case, her substantive answers werent that much more convincing than Trump's.


Agreed. Hillary Clinton is a untalented politician, more at 11.

Quote (EndlessSky @ 4 Jul 2018 19:20)
Someone needs to completely destroy and rebuild their party the way Drumpf did


The corruption seen in the party's primary and the embarrassment in the wake of the general election probably should have destroyed the party.

Instead, it lives on as a relatively ineffective, reactionary coalition that is desperately waiting for a savior that might never come.
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Jul 4 2018 06:46pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jul 4 2018 08:28pm)
Good point.



Agreed. Hillary Clinton is a untalented politician, more at 11.



The corruption seen in the party's primary and the embarrassment in the wake of the general election probably should have destroyed the party.

Instead, it lives on as a relatively ineffective, reactionary coalition that is desperately waiting for a savior that might never come.



Drumpf reeeeeeeeee
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Jul 4 2018 06:51pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 4 2018 07:46pm)
Drumpf reeeeeeeeee



vote to impeach drumpf now...happy 4th everyone
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Jul 5 2018 04:35am
Quote (ThatAlex @ 5 Jul 2018 02:28)
Instead, it lives on as a relatively ineffective, reactionary coalition that is desperately waiting for a savior that might never come.


wait, you dont think that Gillibrand as an opportunistic mashup of Hillary and Warren can be this savior?
you dont think Kamala Harris would automatically win all minority voters because she is black?
you dont think Joe Biden would reconquer the midwest by the mere fact of being an old white man?

what is this sorcery? ;)

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I'm still waiting for the day when the Democratic establishment consisting of mostly old white men and some old white women realizes that their minority pandering will inevitably eventually lead to all of them getting Crowley'd. I'm still waiting on the day when they realize that their attemps at riding the diversity ticket do not spell doom for the GOP, no, they are spelling doom for "old white (wo)men" in their own party.

as some pundits said: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (aka She Guevara) is the vanguard, types like her are the future of the Democratic Party.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 5 2018 04:35am
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Jul 5 2018 07:14am

https://foxsanantonio.com/news/local/viral-video-shows-teen-attacked-for-wearing-make-american-great-again-hat

this is what maxine waters was suggesting when she demanded lefty #resisters harass Trump supporters: a grown man roided out adult-aged freak throwing soda at, verbally harassing, and stealing property from skinny minors, one of which appears to kylo ren’s younger brother :wacko: :bonk: :blink:
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Jul 5 2018 07:22am
Quote (excellence @ Jul 5 2018 08:14am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3llrQD7iLZI
https://foxsanantonio.com/news/local/viral-video-shows-teen-attacked-for-wearing-make-american-great-again-hat

this is what maxine waters was suggesting when she demanded lefty #resisters harass Trump supporters: a grown man roided out adult-aged freak throwing soda at, verbally harassing, and stealing property from skinny minors, one of which appears to kylo ren’s younger brother :wacko: :bonk: :blink:


Dem's should know better than to enrage high school MAGA's!

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Jul 5 2018 07:31am
Quote (excellence @ Jul 5 2018 08:14am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3llrQD7iLZI
https://foxsanantonio.com/news/local/viral-video-shows-teen-attacked-for-wearing-make-american-great-again-hat

this is what maxine waters was suggesting when she demanded lefty #resisters harass Trump supporters: a grown man roided out adult-aged freak throwing soda at, verbally harassing, and stealing property from skinny minors, one of which appears to kylo ren’s younger brother :wacko: :bonk: :blink:


He deserved it
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