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Oct 16 2023 11:54am
Quote (gnarjay @ 16 Oct 2023 19:36)
interesting video on the history of Israel purposefully targeting civilians, its also an actual strategy of their since the early 2000's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QraCgxStVcQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine#:~:text=The%20Dahiya%20doctrine%2C%20or%20Dahya,to%20deny%20combatants%20the%20use

the IDF is a state-funded terror organization


They are truely full of shit, clearly, and the whole story can be summarized by: Who assassinated Yitzhak Rabin in 1995, After the Likud leader and future prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, accused Rabin's government of being "removed from Jewish tradition [...] and Jewish values"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Yitzhak_Rabin

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Oct 16 2023 11:55am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 16 2023 11:51am)
" is the far-right totalitarian political ideology and practices associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party "

Disagree with the Wiki ? Playing with semantics ? Not my problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics


Wiki lmfao I can edit wiki and say that you’re a descendant of Hitler and that all French people are nazis.
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Oct 16 2023 11:55am
Quote (Malopox @ Oct 16 2023 12:44pm)
People are thanking Nazis for their service and clapping for them in parliaments. It’s 2023 Goom, wake up.

Having said that - peacefully protesting eg illegal land grab should be allowed.


The thing about societies that don't think peaceful protesting should be allowed is you can get whiplash from how fast the whims of those in power change what beliefs are permitted. That's been true historically, and we basically had to hold our breath to see whether France and Germany were going to ban pro-Hamas or pro-Israel protests this time around :rofl:
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Oct 16 2023 11:58am
Quote (Landmine @ 16 Oct 2023 19:55)
Wiki lmfao I can edit wiki and say that you’re a descendant of Hitler and that all French people are nazis.


Nope, you won't get easy access and even if you manage to break in someone with superior rights will make a rollback

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Oct 16 2023 12:01pm
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 16 2023 11:55am)
The thing about societies that don't think peaceful protesting should be allowed is you can get whiplash from how fast the whims of those in power change what beliefs are permitted. That's been true historically, and we basically had to hold our breath to see whether France and Germany were going to ban pro-Hamas or pro-Israel protests this time around :rofl:


The liberal of America is the biggest conundrum I’m seeing at the time. They were pro Israel when it came to Kanye not too long ago… Their so confused that none of them know what they are or what they believe day to day. Gnarjay not even a month ago was pro assault on nazis and now he’s holding hands with them in solidarity.

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Oct 16 2023 12:04pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 16 2023 06:40am)
One thing I can't reconcile is how in the west leading leftist organizations have responded to this. It's one thing to say I support Palestinians for XYZ, it's another to retweet flags of Hamas paragliders, which even a child understands is explicit support for Hamas (it wasn't Palestinian civilians paragliding into Israel, hello?).

Organizations like BLM have retweeted that image. Students at leading universities have used it.


The sentiment seems to be that Palestine and Hamas are resisting occupation and protracted ethnic cleansing, against a world power exponentially more resourced and capable than they are. As such, the image of a paraglider is heroic if looked at only through that lens.

When pressed further about how civilians were targeted, to include foreign nationals who aren't even Israeli, then their response seems to be that you're "focusing on the wrong things in this moment".
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Oct 16 2023 12:09pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 16 2023 01:04pm)
The sentiment seems to be that Palestine and Hamas are resisting occupation and protracted ethnic cleansing, against a world power exponentially more resourced and capable than they are. As such, the image of a paraglider is heroic if looked at only through that lens.

When pressed further about how civilians were targeted, to include foreign nationals who aren't even Israeli, then their response seems to be that you're "focusing on the wrong things in this moment".


Genocidal myopia isn't a neologism at least
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Oct 16 2023 12:12pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 16 2023 10:54am)
They are truely full of shit, clearly, and the whole story can be summarized by: Who assassinated Yitzhak Rabin in 1995, After the Likud leader and future prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, accused Rabin's government of being "removed from Jewish tradition [...] and Jewish values"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Yitzhak_Rabin


Netanyahu is pure evil, its no wonder why the American right loves him so much
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Oct 16 2023 12:13pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 16 2023 12:04pm)
The sentiment seems to be that Palestine and Hamas are resisting occupation and protracted ethnic cleansing, against a world power exponentially more resourced and capable than they are. As such, the image of a paraglider is heroic if looked at only through that lens.

When pressed further about how civilians were targeted, to include foreign nationals who aren't even Israeli, then their response seems to be that you're "focusing on the wrong things in this moment".


No one wants to explain West Bank. No it’s not all of Palestine that feels oppressed or wants war with Israel. It’s one group which is Hamas which entered Gaza when Israel gave it to Palestine. Fatah stayed in the West Bank and fights Hamas. Gaza turned into a terrorist haven with only one goal and that’s to kill all Jews.
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Oct 16 2023 12:15pm
Quote (Landmine @ Oct 16 2023 11:13am)
No one wants to explain West Bank. No it’s not all of Palestine that feels oppressed or wants war with Israel. It’s one group which is Hamas which entered Gaza when Israel gave it to Palestine. Fatah stayed in the West Bank and fights Hamas. Gaza turned into a terrorist haven with only one goal and that’s to kill all Jews.


I do think the distinction between Gaza and The West Bank (Haza and Fatah) is a level of nuance not widely embraced by the forms of leftism that void is referring to.
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