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Jul 7 2018 08:13pm
Quote (SBD @ Jul 7 2018 10:02pm)
No. The price of reckless spending is not exceeding the massive appreciation of real estate. It does not boil down to putting your pennies away.

Wages have no where near increased at the rapid rate of housing in non rural areas. Rural areas have remained in a good spot but offer no career advancement for young people or careers at all for that matter.




We lived in suburbia, and I guess we were upper middle class. I didn't even know Star Trek was filmed in color, till I went in the service.
Yeah Real Estate went up. It went up for my generation too.

Yeah, if you JUST compare two generations, it looks bad...but if you compare them all at the same time...you'll see a pattern. Everything always goes up, by a lot. It does so every generation.

My mother and father were also upper middle class. My mother's family grew veggies in the back yard and raised chickens, and sold them to the rich people.
You guys can whine all you want about how shyt ain't fair, but in 30 years from now, you'll be on JSP, telling 25-35 year olds the same thing.

When I was in Cali, age 25-35-ish, my g/f's mother was paying $400/month taxes on her house. Nice house/neighborhood too. We couldn't find a 1 bdrm apt for less than $600++ a month, rent. And this was back in the early 80's.
Same shyt, different day. Life just repeats it self over and over.
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Jul 7 2018 08:19pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 8 2018 01:11pm)
You sound like a simple minded person saying something like this. There's tons of reasons why house prices have gone up. Boomers are responsible in some way but to just say "boomers inflated house prices" sounds dumb af.

Some actual reasons house prices have inflated:

-The inflation rate
-Not enough houses are being built fast enough to make up for the demand (population growth is exceeding new homes being built)
-The price of natural resources like lumber, copper, aluminum have gone up a lot
-Foreign investment, meaning rich people in China buy real estate as a form of investment in places like Vancouver, Sydney, Toronto, etc.

There's a ton more. If you want to say boomers inflated house prices at least give an explanation otherwise you sound stupid.

Oh crap, land values have exploded because the boomers used real estate as a retirement fund.

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Jul 7 2018 08:25pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jul 7 2018 07:19pm)
Oh crap, land values have exploded because the boomers used real estate as a retirement fund.


Home ownership has gone up a lot over the last century, which is actually a very good thing. Real estate is a great store of value, one that rarely depreciates in value and it's also durable. There's nothing wrong with people wanting to own their home. It's empowering and it gives people security. It's also a great tool for leverage that for most of history the common pleb had no access to. If i'm middle class and i want to start a business, i can use my home equity as collateral. It's a wonderful thing for the common man to be given that opportunity.
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Jul 7 2018 08:26pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 7 2018 10:13pm)
We lived in suburbia, and I guess we were upper middle class. I didn't even know Star Trek was filmed in color, till I went in the service.
Yeah Real Estate went up. It went up for my generation too.

Yeah, if you JUST compare two generations, it looks bad...but if you compare them all at the same time...you'll see a pattern. Everything always goes up, by a lot. It does so every generation.

My mother and father were also upper middle class. My mother's family grew veggies in the back yard and raised chickens, and sold them to the rich people.
You guys can whine all you want about how shyt ain't fair, but in 30 years from now, you'll be on JSP, telling 25-35 year olds the same thing.

When I was in Cali, age 25-35-ish, my g/f's mother was paying $400/month taxes on her house. Nice house/neighborhood too. We couldn't find a 1 bdrm apt for less than $600++ a month, rent. And this was back in the early 80's.
Same shyt, different day. Life just repeats it self over and over.


I have never seen such ignorance.

I know Canada better than the US so lets use statistics so we can put this to rest.


The average price of a home in Vancouver (since you brought up cali , ill use our cali) in 1984 was $116,400. The average after tax income in 1984 was $52,500in Vancouver

Lets look at today. Average price of a home in Vancouver is $761,742. The average after tax income in 2010 was $55,500

You claim to be the math tutor. Do the math.

Let me ask you did the change of $3,000 in average income compensate for the 600K change in the average home?

Must be reckless spending creating a barrier from young people entering the housing market. I don't know how to dumb it down anymore than this. You seem to honestly be a simpleton.

This post was edited by SBD on Jul 7 2018 08:28pm
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Jul 7 2018 08:31pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 8 2018 01:25pm)
Home ownership has gone up a lot over the last century, which is actually a very good thing. Real estate is a great store of value, one that rarely depreciates in value and it's also durable. There's nothing wrong with people wanting to own their home. It's empowering and it gives people security. It's also a great tool for leverage that for most of history the common pleb had no access to. If i'm middle class and i want to start a business, i can use my home equity as collateral. It's a wonderful thing for the common man to be given that opportunity.


Except the boomers bought 7 each and killed that dream for the average member of gen y then blamed avocados..
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Jul 7 2018 08:34pm
Houses arent necessarily more expensive. People just want to live in shitty areas like cities and in overly large houses for some reason. The other price increases come from poor mortgage practices.
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Jul 7 2018 08:35pm
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Except the boomers bought 7 each and killed that dream for the average member of gen y then blamed avocados..


I'm trying to engage you in a reasonable and intelligent manner and these are the type of responses you give. Boomers didn't buy a bunch of homes per family, what world do you live in.
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Jul 7 2018 08:37pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 8 2018 01:35pm)
I'm trying to engage you in a reasonable and intelligent manner and these are the type of responses you give. Boomers didn't buy a bunch of homes per family, what world do you live in.


My mother owns 6 homes.
My best friends parents own 8.
I know quite a few boomers who just kept buying.
Un the 80s the banks and advisors were telling everyone to just keep buying.
Negative gearing made it a joke.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Jul 7 2018 08:48pm
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Jul 7 2018 08:47pm
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My mother owns 6 homes.


Anecdotal evidence isnt an argument einstein
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Jul 7 2018 08:49pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 7 2018 07:34pm)
Houses arent necessarily more expensive. People just want to live in shitty areas like cities and in overly large houses for some reason. The other price increases come from poor mortgage practices.


Are you really going to stick to the argument that housing prices haven't risen faster than median income?
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