This is bad. For the first time in this case, I feel honestly badly for the State. They should have vetted this guy.



This is correct. Self-preservation does not take into account the well-being of the threat.



This is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. I sincerely hope you are never in a scenario where you have 2 seconds to live or die. Seriously.

When has Kyle been in a situation where he was 2 seconds away from dying? Neither of the two dead guys were armed.

Just use the same ones.

1.
I'll be Rosembaum, you're Kyle.
I told you I'm going to fucking kill you if I see you alone.
I see you alone, I Hide/ambush/chase/throw something/pin you between cars/then lunge at your weapon.
You shot me, justified.

2. I'm Huber

I'm chasing you down the street with about 17 other people, one of the people next to me catches up to you and punches you in the back of the head causing you to fall.
Another guy next to me tries to stomp your head into the pavement
I come up and hit you in the head with the trucks of my skateboard full strength once, then half power again while attempting to grab your gun
You shoot me in the chest I die.


3. I'm Grosskeurtz
I see you get kicked, and hit with a skateboard twice and I'm running at you with a gun in my hand
I have my hands up and you put your gun down, I feign surrender until you're not looking, take an advancement step towards you and point my gun at your head
You get your firing arm vaporized, and unable to pull that trigger to kill me. Self defense.
Oh, later on my only regret is not unloading my pistol into you.

This post was edited by lolkggz on Nov 11 2021 03:41pm

Ever been hit in the head with a skateboard? Ever held a skateboard? Know what a skateboard is?

Your statement smacks of ignorance, nothing more. A boot to the face, a skateboard to the head, anything can not only knock him out, but can kill him outright.

He is armed, and should his armament fall into the hands of hostile actors, those actors can not only kill him utilizing his own armament, but can kill other people unrelated to the case at hand.

I don't think you know anything, tbh.

Will you sign a waver for me to hit you as hard as i can in the head with one of these attached to 6-8 layers of ply wood?




You let me know when you're tired of it and think your lifes in danger before you pull the trigger.

This post was edited by lolkggz on Nov 11 2021 03:37pm

PSA: the trial is ongoing. Here's a stream that includes some legal breakdown from a panel of lawyers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STlOy99RWk0

I am not affiliated, blah blah blah. Watch the trial, or don't waste our time with stupid as fuck responses, aye?

And just in case I survive (miraculously?), may I fire my bullets?

Guys, I am neither leaning towards Kyle nor against him. I have no emotions in this case.

I was just curious to find out whether you'd find it likely he'd be acquitted three times, which would be necessary
to spare him of serious punishment.

Apparently, the answer is yes.

To be honest I am much more interested in the impact it would have on the American society if Kyle could just walk
out of that court room as a free man.

You wouldn't be able to, you'd be a vegetable or dead the only limitation to me killing you is exhaustion of swinging the board into your head. YOU CANT SHOOT
Kyle took the shot and rolled it off, probably addrenaline, got hit AGAIN and decided it was enough.

You telling us a skateboard isn't a deadly weapon is troll bait.

This post was edited by lolkggz on Nov 11 2021 03:45pm

Next thing is, why doesn't your legal system have appropriate sanctions for youthful offenders? (I know some states
know of such things.)

Why is life without parole on the table as a sentence for a 17 year old perpetrator?

Edit: Not a Kyle-related question necessarily

This post was edited by TheOnlyDenny on Nov 11 2021 03:45pm

You bring up multiple issues. So, I'll address them by order:

1. If you're assaulted with a deadly weapon (which happens to include both a boot and a skateboard) then yes, if you survive, you are legally able to utilize your rifle to insure that deadly weapon is not used on you again.

2. I believe he will be acquitted on everything other than the possession charge. That, I believe, will either end up in a hung jury, or guilty.

3. The impact on American Society if Kyle is found guilty on murder charges in a clear self-defense case will be terrible. I predict lawmakers being targeted by people worried that their ability to simply exist goes unchecked.

Is this a fair answer to your question? If you require any clarifying questions, feel free to ask.