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Sep 22 2020 09:07am
Quote (IceMage @ Sep 22 2020 10:58am)
He was on drugs, obviously.

https://www.wbay.com/2020/09/22/one-on-one-interview-with-democratic-presidential-nominee-joe-biden/

Here's video.

The disconnect between how Biden actually sounds and what right-wingers think is astonishing. You guys really should listen to him yourselves instead of getting the filtered soundbytes.


So live but if i was a betting man i'd say he has a teleprompter in front of him and his team probably knew the ballpark of the questions that were going to be asked.

And you're right. I honestly can't wait for the debates to start. I can't wait for when we know for a fact that there isn't a team of PR people scripting his answers. If Joe does well I don't have problem acknowledging it just want it to be real not staged bullshit.

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Sep 22 2020 09:10am
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So live but if i was a betting man i'd say he has a teleprompter in front of him and his team probably knew the ballpark of the questions that were going to be asked.

And you're right. I honestly can't wait for the debates to start. I can't wait for when we know for a fact that there isn't a team of PR people scripting his answers. If Joe does well I don't have problem acknowledging it just want it to be real not staged bullshit.


these tinfoily Manchurian candidate theories are getting fun.

2020 Biden is like Jordan on the Wizards, he's no world beater but he's not a bumbling idiot either. he has short flashes of brilliance with short flashes of utter nonsense, and most of what he says he could handle without the PR team. its the beauty of being a center aisle moderate candidate, most of your opinions are just fancy fence sitting.
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Sep 22 2020 09:17am
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these tinfoily Manchurian candidate theories are getting fun.

2020 Biden is like Jordan on the Wizards, he's no world beater but he's not a bumbling idiot either. he has short flashes of brilliance with short flashes of utter nonsense, and most of what he says he could handle without the PR team. its the beauty of being a center aisle moderate candidate, most of your opinions are just fancy fence sitting.


Based on what, your opinion? how he was 5, 10 years ago?

Wanting to see your potential president in a real debate without the screens, actually critically thinking on the spot is not some grand conspiracy theory, it's a pretty basic ask.
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Sep 22 2020 09:26am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 22 2020 11:07am)
So live but if i was a betting man i'd say he has a teleprompter in front of him and his team probably knew the ballpark of the questions that were going to be asked.

And you're right. I honestly can't wait for the debates to start. I can't wait for when we know for a fact that there isn't a team of PR people scripting his answers. If Joe does well I don't have problem acknowledging it just want it to be real not staged bullshit.


We have Trump and his campaign claiming Biden has been on drugs for his public appearances... they also think for town halls he's been given the questions in advanced.

And now you think he had a teleprompter in front of him for a Zoom interview. The implication of all this is that Biden has dementia and shouldn't be able to perform well.

It's weird how these narratives get set and Trump supporters can't change their opinions with new information. They have to invent weird explanations instead of just going with the obvious one: Biden's stuttering and forgetfulness in mashed up videos doesn't accurately represent him.
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Sep 22 2020 09:30am
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We have Trump and his campaign claiming Biden has been on drugs for his public appearances... they also think for town halls he's been given the questions in advanced.

And now you think he had a teleprompter in front of him for a Zoom interview. The implication of all this is that Biden has dementia and shouldn't be able to perform well.

It's weird how these narratives get set and Trump supporters can't change their opinions with new information. They have to invent weird explanations instead of just going with the obvious one: Biden's stuttering and forgetfulness in mashed up videos doesn't accurately represent him.



The narratives are based on dozens of mental lapses, proven by plenty of video examples. The narratives are based on months of Biden staying in his basement and hardly campaigning or doing anything really that a person who’s trying to become potus would do.

You can pretend this reality doesn’t exist but it does.
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Sep 22 2020 09:53am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 22 2020 08:07am)
So live but if i was a betting man i'd say he has a teleprompter in front of him and his team probably knew the ballpark of the questions that were going to be asked.

And you're right. I honestly can't wait for the debates to start. I can't wait for when we know for a fact that there isn't a team of PR people scripting his answers. If Joe does well I don't have problem acknowledging it just want it to be real not staged bullshit.



As if Trump doesn't need a teleprompter, and still comes off sounding like a raging lunatic with no command of his own birth language.
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Sep 22 2020 10:02am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 22 2020 10:17am)
Based on what, your opinion? how he was 5, 10 years ago?

Wanting to see your potential president in a real debate without the screens, actually critically thinking on the spot is not some grand conspiracy theory, it's a pretty basic ask.


based on watching him in interviews and town halls when he gets off message. he's no obama, but he's not the bumbling idiot smashcuts of his gaffes would have people believing, apparently you among them.

then again, in a 3 hour debate he's bound to slip, and you'll jump on that to prove to yourself you were right all along. look at this thread, u came in certain it was a precanned response prerecorded, then got shown it was live, then u double down into "well it must be a teleprompter directing his every word", is if he cant memorize flash cards or *GASP* work his way through a question after 50 years in this business.

as to the conspiracy, wat? did u even think about that for a second? lol. i wasnt talking about the want for debates, i was talking about how u guys constantly act like Joe is the Wizard of Oz with 12 aides holding him up with props and wires. its lazy thinking. yes hes mentally declining, yes his team has limited his exposure, etc. but the extreme u guys take it to is just silly, nor do you ever seem to mention that in 3 hour debates Trump is just as likely to put his foot in his mouth.
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Sep 22 2020 10:03am
Quote (inkanddagger @ Sep 22 2020 11:53am)
As if Trump doesn't need a teleprompter, and still comes off sounding like a raging lunatic with no command of his own birth language.


Thing is with Trump we can tell from his tweets, speeches, etc that they really are not all that primed. Even if they are he probably discards a fair amount and does his thing, otherwise there'd be no way for us to explain the huge volumes of him saying dumb things or phrasing things weirdly.

With Joe Biden you sometimes get polished responses and sometimes you get him basically losing his thoughts or quoting something that's not really applicable, and as of late (last couple of years) he really hasn't been in the public enough for us to say the gaffes are exceptions.

You know how you prove the critics wrong that you're not coherent and losing your marbles? Getting out there. So why isn't hasn't he done that? That's why I think we will get a way better answer of where Biden actually is from a long live debate versus some primed responses from a screen.
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Sep 22 2020 10:06am
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 22 2020 12:02pm)
nor do you ever seem to mention that in 3 hour debates Trump is just as likely to put his foot in his mouth.


The difference is when Trump starts rambling incoherently, it's described by the cult as "just the way he talks". They ignore the weird slurring that happens from time to time.

If you watch Trump from 2015, he's much sharper and coherent than he is now.
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Sep 22 2020 10:10am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 22 2020 09:03am)
Thing is with Trump we can tell from his tweets, speeches, etc that they really are not all that primed. Even if they are he probably discards a fair amount and does his thing, otherwise there'd be no way for us to explain the huge volumes of him saying dumb things or phrasing things weirdly.

With Joe Biden you sometimes get polished responses and sometimes you get him basically losing his thoughts or quoting something that's not really applicable, and as of late (last couple of years) he really hasn't been in the public enough for us to say the gaffes are exceptions.

You know how you prove the critics wrong that you're not coherent and losing your marbles? Getting out there. So why isn't hasn't he done that? That's why I think we will get a way better answer of where Biden actually is from a long live debate versus some primed responses from a screen.



All he does is add "stupendous, marvelous, big, wonderful, the greatest, the best, believe me, let me tell you" and that kind of shit to embellish things. That's how we get shit like "Big ocean water, the biggest most powerful you have ever seen let me tell you that people are saying it, believe me, good genes, good genes"
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