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Jun 26 2018 08:04am
Quote (EA7 @ Jun 25 2018 09:32pm)
All the people who call Trump stupid or low IQ are real simpletons.

You don't become a billionaire and then President of the US by being an idiot.

Lots of the simple language and spelling mistakes in his tweets are done for a reason. If people still don't get this, it's honestly a good thing. It's why we're winning so effortlessly while Democrats throw temper tantrums.


are you making fun of Trump's voters?
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#20572
Jun 26 2018 08:38am
travel ban upheld
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Jun 26 2018 09:30am
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travel ban upheld


The office of the President has the authority to make travel bans. I thought this was a pretty slamdunk case.

To my understanding, the SCOTUS ruled on the authority aspect of the travel ban and not on the ban's soundness. They are going to leave that to the lower courts.

Was Trump's travel ban motivated by religious hostility? Probably, but that sentiment was no where to be found in this version of the exectutive order, and I don't know enough about law to know how much you can read into separate public statements and political motivations when examining a particular law or executive order/memorandum.
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Jun 26 2018 10:12am
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 23 2018 04:24pm)
http://www.newsweek.com/sarah-sanders-reportedly-thrown-out-virginia-restaurant-then-yelp-reviews-992762

I have mixed feelings on this. I'm a big believer in civility and decency, whether you agree with someone's politics or not.

At the same time, Trump is the most divisive president in modern history. He's not civil or decent at all... he intentionally tries not to be. And Sarah Sanders chooses to work for him.

So, while I wouldn't ever do this to her myself, I kind of like it when Americans push back in this way.


After thinking about this and reading opinions for a couple days, I have to say I've changed my mind. It's wrong to do this, and I don't think Americans should lower themselves to Trump's level.

Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 26 2018 09:38am)
travel ban upheld


Good.

I don't agree with the ban, but the president has the power to do it.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jun 26 2018 10:13am
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Jun 26 2018 10:23am
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jun 26 2018 10:30am)
The office of the President has the authority to make travel bans. I thought this was a pretty slamdunk case.

To my understanding, the SCOTUS ruled on the authority aspect of the travel ban and not on the ban's soundness. They are going to leave that to the lower courts.

Was Trump's travel ban motivated by religious hostility? Probably, but that sentiment was no where to be found in this version of the exectutive order, and I don't know enough about law to know how much you can read into separate public statements and political motivations when examining a particular law or executive order/memorandum.

That’s essentially what is was. The prosecutors argued that it was a religious ban, because they claimed that’s what Trump said it was. Then they laid out each time Trump stated this, & each time a member of the cabinet reaffirmed it. The other side said ya know, while that is indeed true, it’s never explicitly spelled out like that in the actual framework of the EO.
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#20576
Jun 26 2018 10:28am
Trump shitting on Harley Davidson on twitter because they had the nerve to adapt to the economic pressures he created.

We'll file this as #9000 of things Obama would've been crucified for by the right-wing.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jun 26 2018 10:29am
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Jun 26 2018 11:13am
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major investment is kickstarting America’s steel industry.

JSW Steel USA plans to invest $500 million to build a new factory in the U.S. Combined with a previous announcement that JSW will modernize an existing plant, the Indian-owned company is making a total investment of $1 billion after President Trump’s tax reform and tariffs on imported steel.

“The Trump administration was the driver behind giving us in the U.S. the ability to compete for capital,” JSW Steel USA CEO John Hritz said during a First on FOX Business interview with Edward Lawrence on Thursday.


https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/steel-maker-jsw-to-build-new-plant-invest-500m-after-trump-tariffs

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#20578
Jun 26 2018 11:15am
anyone 'member Sally Yates grandstanding in a big huff and puff as she quit to protest the travel ban and claim its unconstitutional?
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#20579
Jun 26 2018 11:22am
Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 26 2018 10:38am)
travel ban upheld


The 5-4 decision is proof that the freedoms of Democracy are hanging by a thread in this country. There is very little stopping us from succumbing to Liberal Democrat fascism
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Jun 26 2018 11:29am
Quote (Goomshill @ 26 Jun 2018 12:15)
anyone 'member Sally Yates grandstanding in a big huff and puff as she quit to protest the travel ban and claim its unconstitutional?


It's easy to conflate Executive Order 13769 with Executive 13780.

The language of the former was much sloppier.

Regardless, I think it's pretty obvious that it is within the President's authority to issue a travel ban.
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