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Mar 25 2020 02:02am



Quote (IceMage @ 25 Mar 2020 08:28)
These aren't normal political times. New York City is the epicenter of the outbreak in the US and he's dealing with it well. He's speaking the truth about the virus, and in these insane times that's worthy of praise. I wish Trump would deal with this issue as seriously as Cuomo has.


should something happen to or with biden after he (mathematically) secured the dems nomination, i would not at all be surprised if the dnc replaced him with cuomo.

msm has a real hard on for that guy...
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Mar 25 2020 02:12am
Critically relevant :

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Mar 25 2020 02:20am
https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/1242252333607772162?s=20

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- NEW: What happened before @realdonaldtrump
called for re-evaluating lockdowns? His company had to close 6 of its top 7 revenue-generating clubs and hotels.

I didn’t realize until today how corona closures have hit @realdonaldtrump
’s biggest revenue generators. Six out of the top seven. (And the one that’s open is doing pretty bad, too).


Pretty big conflict of interest there.
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Mar 25 2020 03:02am
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Mar 25 2020 05:22am
Quote (IceMage @ Mar 25 2020 02:01am)
Why do we have to pretend there's some grand strategy? We're in a crisis, Pelosi for whatever reason thought putting together a bill would be worth it, and now it's not relevant.

Like I said yesterday, it would be unthinkable for prolonged gridlock to happen. A bill had to get through, and Democrats holding it up for an extra day was legitimate. Everybody on the right feigned outrage after Mitch forced a vote, but here we are with a compromise.


Just like you predicted. Nothing bad happened.

What is reckless is talk of opening in person work sites again. It's funny that all the conservatives were complaining that the democrats were blocking their socialist handout when this is the real danger.
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Mar 25 2020 05:59am
https://apnews.com/edd230801c0e181169915e67b1fd64c6

So a deal was made.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/on-small-business/trump-owned-companies-banned-from-virus-aid-in-stimulus-bill/2020/03/25/850f4d10-6e68-11ea-a156-0048b62cdb51_story.html

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According to a summary circulated by the office of Democratic leader Chuck Schumer, businesses owned by the president, vice president, members of Congress or heads of executive departments would be excluded from receiving that aid. The block also would also extend to companies controlled by their children, spouses or in-laws.


This was the most surprising of all.
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Mar 25 2020 06:04am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Mar 25 2020 04:12am)
Critically relevant :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QD75lUm51s




A bit more relevant than an old book.

You realize we are a geriatric nation. We will not have to worry about being serfs with all that jobs that will be opening up due to attrition if we go back to work by easter and try to "tough it out".

Also:
"Here’s why this is a worry: Overall, our hospitals have fewer beds than other developed countries, according to recent data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. The United States had 2.8 beds per 1,000 residents. By comparison, Germany had 8 beds and China 4.3 per 1,000."

Why are these serfs doing so much better than us with health care? Is there a point at which you will admit serfcare with better outcomes is better than no care?

This post was edited by Skinned on Mar 25 2020 06:09am
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Mar 25 2020 06:09am
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 25 2020 01:04pm)
https://assets.propublica.org/images/articles/_threeTwo800w/20200314-flu-covid19-chart.jpg

A bit more relevant than an old book.

You realize we are a geriatric nation. We will not have to worry about being serfs with all that jobs that will be opening up due to attrition if we go back to work by easter and try to "tough it out".


Not just geriatric, but also obese, which is a risk factor. Less than smokers (of which China has far more), but still.



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Mar 25 2020 06:34am
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 25 2020 07:04am)
https://assets.propublica.org/images/articles/_threeTwo800w/20200314-flu-covid19-chart.jpg

A bit more relevant than an old book.

You realize we are a geriatric nation. We will not have to worry about being serfs with all that jobs that will be opening up due to attrition if we go back to work by easter and try to "tough it out".

Also:
"Here’s why this is a worry: Overall, our hospitals have fewer beds than other developed countries, according to recent data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. The United States had 2.8 beds per 1,000 residents. By comparison, Germany had 8 beds and China 4.3 per 1,000."

Why are these serfs doing so much better than us with health care? Is there a point at which you will admit serfcare with better outcomes is better than no care?


Beds aren't the issue. ICU beds are the issue. Italy has 12.5 ICU beds per 100,000, Germany has 29.2, the US has 34.2, China 3.6, and India 2.3.
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