It only seems generic because it has been normalized in our Christianized society over a thousand years - back then his message was revolutionary. In that sense you yourself have already been Christianized even if its not readily apparent

/e There is also His message about forgiving and loving yourself as well, and understanding that Jessus died for your own sins such that God will forgive you thus you can forgive yourself, which I believe is the far more important message that today's society needs to hear because we have an epidemic of self loathing and self hatred

This post was edited by El1te on Jul 25 2023 09:00am

without religion to keep them in check, they will eat you.

Well its one of the ways. I would encourage critical thinking classes along and more team building sports and activities. Maybe throw in a meditation and how to deal with stress exercises. Because at the end of the day 99% of the people who turn to religion are afraid of death, need to explain the unknown and gives them sense of belonging. Replace that with healthier alternatives and you have yourself a more pleasant and rational people to deal with. No need to control them.

and not of that is any kind of proof the bible showing christianity is a lie

i mean chit dude. if your going to make claims about "critical thinking" dont you think you should be demonstrating some of it?
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i remember a debate i watched along time ago. john lennox/chris hitchens
at the end of the debate hitchens wanted a poll taken if the debate swayed any one in a different direction and if so which direction. after the pool was taken it turned slightly into lennoxs favor. what was amusing is hitchens usually wasnt one to convey a loss. if he lost to a point he would move on like it never happened (this is also a indicator of being dishonest). this time he didnt cover it so well. you could tell his azz was frosted. .........ya i found it amusing.

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jul 25 2023 02:51pm

I ask too many questions? Let's see where we are at so far.

I first asked the most important question:



Your response was:



So at this point we've established that money is the source for salvation. However, there is a big problem with that. Not everyone can donate some money. I am worried about all those who are under the age of 18 and don't have a job. They can't donate any money so they must be doomed. I'm worried about the housewife who isn't the one who provides for the family. She is reliant on the income of her husband.

I am also worried about the homeless, I can't walk 3 blocks of the city without seeing someone who doesn't have a home. They are obviously jobless and unable to donate money. All I am asking what about them? They are unable to donate money so they are unable to be saved.

Your reply to these concerns are:



We haven't even made it 4 pages and already you are saying I am asking too many questions? If anything I only have more questions rather than answers the way this is going.

doesnt disprove christianity. just shows you have a fetish for some dude in a funny hat

God never sleeps "God"
Jesus was sleeping "Jesus"

be forgiven,............ any way



sounds like a pretty horrific place. a place in need of a savior

Passages in the New Testament state that he commanded them to "do this in memory of me" while referring to the bread as "my body" and the cup of wine as "the blood of my covenant, which is poured out for many".

You were given very simple instructions just believe. Drink the koolaid donate a % (not an a specified amount)of your posessions/money and don't ask questions as it's not faith. Pretty simple what more is there? I bet you are interested if there is an altar boy position available?

If you have nothing to give then ask and it will be given duh... knock and it shall be opened (obviously) napkin god said it because it's written on the napkin.... try to keep up.