Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 7 2022 06:49pm)

I realize that Russia is primarily responsible for the attack, however you have to look at all the factors that ultimately caused them to "snap", as it were. Believe me, nobody sane is going to get into a war lightly, and certainly not the kind Russian currently finds herself in.

When a battered and abused wife finally kills her husband, are you going to be so heartless as to say to her, "well, no one forced you to kill your husband"?



I think goomshill's point is that assigning blame is much more nuanced than simply saying, "who pulled the trigger?"



You can read people's minds?

Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 7 2022 05:02pm)

JFC. Ukraine is not a fucking abusive husband, here. They were NO real threat to Russian sovereignty at all. What a shitty analogy.

Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 7 2022 07:03pm)

You seem to take this very personally. Look at how emotional you got.

Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 7 2022 05:05pm)

The use of curse words does not equate to emotion. Mad cause you came up with such a bad analogy?

Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 7 2022 04:57pm)

The point isn't whether women get put into prison. The point is that you need to look at all the factors that contributed to this war. Simply crying that Russia is the aggressor, which technically is true, does not do much to help the situation. You need to realize that your country is partially at fault, too.

Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 7 2022 07:06pm)

I don't think you are in a position to judge whether other people's analogies are bad or not. I mean, look at the stuff you post.

Also, you got personally offended, lol lol.

Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 7 2022 05:08pm)

Why don't you point out some of the "stuff I post" that equates to calling Ukraine an abusive husband in relation to the battered wife of Russia?

Quote (thundercock @ Apr 7 2022 05:08pm)

Again, that's a pointless exercise. The entire world contributed to the factors that led to the invasion. If China wasn't allied with Russia, Russia would not have invaded. If Germany didn't decommission its nuclear power plants, Russia wouldn't have invaded. If Trudeau wasn't PM, Russia wouldn't have invaded.

Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 7 2022 07:11pm)

I wasn't likening Ukraine to an abusive husband. I was showing that there are many factors that need to be considered before assigning blame. But of course, you are too dense to see that.

Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 7 2022 05:18pm)

Whether you intended to or not, that's what happened, regardless. You specifically mentioned looking "at all the factors that ultimately caused them (Russia) to snap", and immediately followed with an analogy about an abused wife finally killing her husband (the wife "snapping"). Anyone with a modicum of understanding of the English language can reasonably draw that there's an analogy being drawn between the two, and a really bad one, at that.