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Jun 20 2018 01:03pm
Quote (IceMage @ 20 Jun 2018 20:22)
Just a weird reaction. I'm not a cold person, and of course women are more emotional, but she really can't report a sad story without breaking into tears?

I generally like her show though.


well, their tears on election night were real ^_^
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Jun 20 2018 01:41pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 20 2018 01:59pm)
I just assume if I turn on a TV I'm watching actors acting.
I'd like to believe that's a more optimistic worldview than thinking Maddow or Colbert are as deranged as the characters they play on TV.
They know their audiences, they know their appeal. Is it cynical to figure they're exaggerating their real beliefs for dramatic effect?


Like I said, there's theater to the shows, but that doesn't mean a human being can't have a genuine emotional moment. I think it's cynical to think that can't happen, but the issue with cynicism in political discourse is bigger just that.

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Jun 20 2018 01:50pm
I'd phrase it like that: in American politics, the most cynical take on an event is the most reasonable prior.
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Jun 20 2018 09:58pm
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-aclu-retreats-from-free-expression-1529533065
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/20180621ACLU.pdf?mod=article_inline
The ACLU has secretly tweaked their mission statement and guidelines for accepting cases to now explicitly dissuade their lawyers from taking cases representing white supremacists, any case that would 'harm equality' or where speakers legally advocate for violence (ala Brandenburg v Ohio, which they themselves argued at the supreme court in 1969).

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The 2018 guidelines claim that “the ACLU is committed to defending speech rights without regard to whether the views expressed are consistent with or opposed to the ACLU’s core values, priorities and goals.” But directly contradicting that assertion, they also cite as a reason to decline taking a free-speech case “the extent to which the speech may assist in advancing the goals of white supremacists or others whose views are contrary to our values.”

In selecting speech cases to defend, the ACLU will now balance the “impact of the proposed speech and the impact of its suppression.” Factors like the potential effect of the speech on “marginalized communities” and even on “the ACLU’s credibility” could militate against taking a case. Fundraising and communications officials helped formulate the new guidelines.


They have not explicitly abandoned their free speech principles and done a clean break yet and still caution their language by saying they still are committed to defending speech regardless of its content- but they have codified the means by which they are perverting that mission and undermining the right. They are explicitly endorsing the discretionary and subjective discrimination against speakers they disagree with politically, which all too deliciously is ironic considering how many times they've argued that discretionary policies of ostensible neutrality with discriminatory intent and impact are themselves institutionalized discrimination.

I feel like I'm beating a dead horse saying it, but the 2018 ACLU are a bunch of cucks who would go out protest the 1969 ACLU instead of supporting their cases. The real joy of this is that some whistleblower leaked this internal document and the ACLU is now investigating the leak :rofl:

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 20 2018 10:05pm
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Jun 21 2018 12:25am


U.S. slams rights groups, says aided its withdrawal from U.N. body

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-un-rights-usa/u-s-slams-rights-groups-says-aided-its-withdrawal-from-u-n-body-idUSKBN1JG2T4

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UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley slammed rights groups on Wednesday for thwarting Washington’s attempts to reform the Geneva-based U.N. Human Rights Council and said they had contributed to the Trump administration’s decision to withdraw.


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In a letter to at least 17 rights and aid groups, seen by Reuters, Haley berated them for urging countries not to support a U.S.-drafted General Assembly resolution titled “Improving the Effectiveness of the Human Rights Council.”

“It is unfortunate that your letter sought to undermine our attempts to improve the Human Rights Council. You put yourself on the side of Russia and China, and opposite the United States, on a key human rights issue,” Haley wrote.

“You should know that your efforts to block negotiations and thwart reform were a contributing factor in the U.S. decision to withdraw from the council,” she said in the letter that was received by groups including Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International.



Nikki Haley is one badass woman. She is smarter than the passel of idiot rights groups. Who are so interested in keeping their job, that they are no longer even doing their job.
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Jun 21 2018 01:32am
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U.S. slams rights groups, says aided its withdrawal from U.N. body

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-un-rights-usa/u-s-slams-rights-groups-says-aided-its-withdrawal-from-u-n-body-idUSKBN1JG2T4






Nikki Haley is one badass woman. She is smarter than the passel of idiot rights groups. Who are so interested in keeping their job, that they are no longer even doing their job.


we all know the real reason for the withdrawal: bibi cried to donnie about the UN for criticising israel's illegal occupation and slaughtering of palestinians - and we all know israel has some powerful allies in the white house and amongst donors pulling emperor bonespurs' strings. so trump does the only move he knows, flips over the chessboard, and now your 'badass woman' is scrambling to find excuses and justifications for this retarded move criticised by the rest of the world, further isolating america...
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Jun 21 2018 03:43am
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Jun 21 2018 03:53am
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we all know the real reason for the withdrawal: bibi cried to donnie about the UN for criticising israel's illegal occupation and slaughtering of palestinians - and we all know israel has some powerful allies in the white house and amongst donors pulling emperor bonespurs' strings. so trump does the only move he knows, flips over the chessboard, and now your 'badass woman' is scrambling to find excuses and justifications for this retarded move criticised by the rest of the world, further isolating america...


or maybe because that council and its members are completely absurd and the worst human violators on the planet use it as a platform to spread anti israel propaganda?
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Jun 21 2018 03:56am
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or maybe because that council and its members are completely absurd and the worst human violators on the planet use it as a platform to spread anti israel propaganda?


This is a fact.
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Jun 21 2018 05:41am
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or maybe because that council and its members are completely absurd and the worst human violators on the planet use it as a platform to spread anti israel propaganda?



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