Quote (Scaly @ Jun 28 2018 01:45pm)

For hundreds of years dude. Really the Irish have had it pretty bad. Since long before the transatlantic slave trade.

Even up to the colonial period the Irish were seen as savages and so were not entitled to proper treatment or consideration. Only really recently have the Irish gained any ground. The troubles emancipated them somewhat but also brought new prejudices.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 28 2018 03:48pm)

If this is the extent of your historical knowledge and debate skills, then I am not impressed

:wacko:

Quote (majorblood @ 28 Jun 2018 20:52)

yeah very common in England, they were basically seen as subhuman and if you associated with them you'd be shunned or married one you'd be removed from your family

Quote (Scaly @ Jun 28 2018 02:07pm)

The same prejudices followed them to the new world. Went there looking for freedom - got more of the same shit. Plenty of Irish slaves on plantations.

Quote (majorblood @ 28 Jun 2018 21:14)

Yeah my great, great grandparents were from England. That grandmother was from a well off English family and she started dating an Irish man, she got removed from the family and they left for North America.

Quote (Scaly @ Jun 28 2018 02:38pm)

Lol. Cool story though. Would love to read some of their journals if they have any.
Could be a basis for a paper... hmmm...

Quote (majorblood @ 28 Jun 2018 21:44)

did you edit making fun of me?
this is just info from my grandparents, couldn't tell you how accurate it is.

Quote (Scaly @ Jun 28 2018 02:49pm)

Nope. I added the second line.
Doesn't matter. If they kept journals they can be a basis for an academic paper. Other documents would corroborate or bring into question any claims made therein.

Quote (Scaly @ Jun 28 2018 09:45pm)

For hundreds of years dude. Really the Irish have had it pretty bad. Since long before the transatlantic slave trade.

Even up to the colonial period the Irish were seen as savages and so were not entitled to proper treatment or consideration. Only really recently have the Irish gained any ground. The troubles emancipated them somewhat but also brought new prejudices.