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Oct 16 2023 09:32am
Quote (Bazi @ Oct 16 2023 06:15pm)
Yeah full credit to Israel for showing some restraint there honestly and giving civilians more time to leave.

But ya no need to make up numbers when they are clearly wrong lol


A lot of fake news everywhere.
Someone wrote here that there are 1300 Palestinians uninvolved dead.. I’m sure he went on to validate each one..
Palestinians are well known for fake news. Pallywood really.
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Oct 16 2023 09:36am
Quote (Bazi @ 16 Oct 2023 10:06)
Im not saying R wing controls what BLM is saying. I’m saying who cares what BLM is saying other than R media groups looking to get outraged people to click. BLM can have whatever extreme stance they have but nobody cares cuz they have no actual say in anything.

I haven’t seen or heard of one BLM segment in the last 2 weeks and that includes on cnn. Literally the only time I’ve heard BLM at any point in the last few weeks is this post. Nobody mainstream news, or moderate, or rational cares about it. Leading leftist group is an overstatement


Chicago and Illinois itself would beg to differ. I saw the protests downtown and BLM. Then there's people like me and so many others who like you said, "Don't give a fuck". So am I going to get in-between two groups that historically hate and kill each other? People telling me to "Pick a side" lmao

Should I have to text my dad when he's on his way to work and go, "Dad they blocked the streets again you may want to leave 2 hours early" because neither side can protest without causing a scene.

My state's leadership also said, send all the Palestinian refugees from Gaza to us, "we will take care of them if no one else will". No one in Chicago wants this to happen. There's enough homeless crack heads, loose cannon leftist, and enraged middle aged muslim men who for some reason hate their freedom here, hate you(just for making eye contact", or beat their wife because you said "hi" to a mother in her child and then the husband gives a devil glare and I think to myself...."Wow I politely said hello to this woman who was pushing her child in a stroller next to her husband and she smiled politely and said "hello" back. Her husband then start verbally abusing her. Fuckin pathetic.

All Abrahamic religions are a joke and they are at the root of all of this conflict. Sad that practitioners of this faith can never read between the lines and can't take back thousands of years of abuse on both sides.

Here's an incident that happened 20-30 minutes from where I live. This will not be an isolated incident. Muslim men don't get along in most cases and still think they live in their own country where they are "Gods" compared to anything else is inferior.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/illinois-man-charged-with-hate-crime-in-stabbing-6-year-old-muslim-boy-to-death-and-wounding-boy-s-mother-over-ongoing-mideast-conflict-police-and-relatives-say/ar-AA1ifWN2
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Oct 16 2023 09:43am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 16 2023 10:36am)
Chicago and Illinois itself would beg to differ. I saw the protests downtown and BLM. Then there's people like me and so many others who like you said, "Don't give a fuck". So am I going to get in-between two groups that historically hate and kill each other? People telling me to "Pick a side" lmao

Should I have to text my dad when he's on his way to work and go, "Dad they blocked the streets again you may want to leave 2 hours early" because neither side can protest without causing a scene.

My state's leadership also said, send all the Palestinian refugees from Gaza to us, "we will take care of them if no one else will". No one in Chicago wants this to happen. There's enough homeless crack heads, loose cannon leftist, and enraged middle aged muslim men who for some reason hate their freedom here, hate you(just for making eye contact", or beat their wife because you said "hi" to a mother in her child and then the husband gives a devil glare and I think to myself...."Wow I politely said hello to this woman who was pushing her child in a stroller next to her husband and she smiled politely and said "hello" back. Her husband then start verbally abusing her. Fuckin pathetic.

All Abrahamic religions are a joke and they are at the root of all of this conflict. Sad that practitioners of this faith can never read between the lines and can't take back thousands of years of abuse on both sides.

Here's an incident that happened 20-30 minutes from where I live. This will not be an isolated incident. Muslim men don't get along in most cases and still think they live in their own country where they are "Gods" compared to anything else is inferior.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/illinois-man-charged-with-hate-crime-in-stabbing-6-year-old-muslim-boy-to-death-and-wounding-boy-s-mother-over-ongoing-mideast-conflict-police-and-relatives-say/ar-AA1ifWN2


I think these protests are going on in major cities across the world atm but the footage I have seen hasn’t necessarily been pro Hamas as what void was referencing

I’m sure you have bad faith actors everywhere but I still think the actual pro Hamas crew, distinguished from pro Palestine civilian life crew, are a small proportion. I do think this whole pick a side shit lacks nuance.

6 year old stabbed to death 20 times in IL?? what the actual F. We are both in total agreement about mainstream religions.

Also to be fair as someone who has lived in the Midwest my entire, Des Moines, Milwaukee, Madison , Detroit and half a year in oak park - fuck Chicago lol. I agree the last thing this city needs is more refugees. I say that while also being pro civilian life, the world has to be realistic about who where how to spread and house them and you can’t simply just drop Them off in already struggling districts with no infrastructure

This post was edited by Bazi on Oct 16 2023 09:45am
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Oct 16 2023 09:45am
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Im not saying R wing controls what BLM is saying. I’m saying who cares what BLM is saying other than R media groups looking to get outraged people to click. BLM can have whatever extreme stance they have but nobody cares cuz they have no actual say in anything.

I haven’t seen or heard of one BLM segment in the last 2 weeks and that includes on cnn. Literally the only time I’ve heard BLM at any point in the last few weeks is this post. Nobody mainstream news, or moderate, or rational cares about it. Leading leftist group is an overstatement


That's because we have always had selective coverage in the MSM. You don't hear about it because certain viewpoints MSM simply doesn't cover because it's counter-narrative.

A good example of this are the hundreds of photos or videos of Ukrainian soldiers/officials/civilians openly carrying and showing Nazi symbols, which is something that's barely mentioned or often excused or labeled as Russian propaganda by our media because it's counter-narrative.
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Oct 16 2023 09:45am
more fake news:

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Oct 16 2023 09:46am
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That's because we have always had selective coverage in the MSM. You don't hear about it because certain viewpoints MSM simply doesn't cover because it's counter-narrative.

A good example of this are the hundreds of photos or videos of Ukrainian soldiers/officials/civilians openly carrying and showing Nazi symbols, which is something that's barely mentioned or often excused or labeled as Russian propaganda by our media because it's counter-narrative.


Sure, but also because those viewpoints are small and inconsequential. You don’t have fox interviewing bangers calling for genocide for the same reason, yet they exist
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Oct 16 2023 09:49am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 13 Oct 2023 15:45)
Dude.....She died on March , 23rd , 2022..Bro you serious Bro


What does her death have to do with anything?

She proudly declared that 500k Iraqi children dying was worth the cost.

& people are enraged about a couple hundred(conservative estimate) Israeli because they were "supposedly" killed in brutal ways.

But my country using lawfare/warfare/cutting off supplies systematically kills 500,000 children and it's NO BIG DEAL.

People are brainwashed. Especially people from my country of the United States. We create the terror and chaos. We create the bombs, planes, ammunition. We decimate their cities indiscriminately . We come in with our companies and "rebuild" for our profit. We install giant military bases and secure oil and opium fields. List goes on and on.

If Hamas did this to a city in the US. Gaza would have been wiped off the map with little to no warning(men, woman, children included).

How can people not see it this way in some respect. Is war not sick and disgusting to such an extent where people like us are arguing semantics when in reality the causal factor of this conflict is rooted in thousands of years of manipulation by hundreds of titantic forces over time? There is no solution. Sad but true.
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Oct 16 2023 09:58am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 16 2023 02:51pm)
Cool response. Equivalent of someone asking a question and the response is something that has nothing to do with the question but is just a way to redirect attention from facts that don't conform to our worldview.


With everything that has and will likely occur. With all of the innocent people that have and will die. Your priority is to take a swipe at what you say are left wing groups realistically on the fringes of public discourse?
What masochistic tendency has you so obsessed with populist fringe groups that you clearly despise?

The irony is in manifesting the same tribal instincts that are a main catalyst of any conflict; And then virtue signalling as if some kind of moral superiority compels you to.
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Oct 16 2023 10:01am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 16 2023 11:58am)
With everything that has and will likely occur. With all of the innocent people that have and will die. Your priority is to take a swipe at what you say are left wing groups realistically on the fringes of public discourse?
What masochistic tendency has you so obsessed with populist fringe groups that you clearly despise?

The irony is in manifesting the same tribal instincts that are a main catalyst of any conflict; And then virtue signalling as if some kind of moral superiority compels you to.


>Civilians are dying and going to die you can only focus on this, nothing else

This is Greta level of discourse dawg.
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Oct 16 2023 10:11am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ 16 Oct 2023 17:49)
What does her death have to do with anything?
She proudly declared that 500k Iraqi children dying was worth the cost.
& people are enraged about a couple hundred(conservative estimate) Israeli because they were "supposedly" killed in brutal ways.
But my country using lawfare/warfare/cutting off supplies systematically kills 500,000 children and it's NO BIG DEAL.
People are brainwashed. Especially people from my country of the United States. We create the terror and chaos. We create the bombs, planes, ammunition. We decimate their cities indiscriminately . We come in with our companies and "rebuild" for our profit. We install giant military bases and secure oil and opium fields. List goes on and on.
If Hamas did this to a city in the US. Gaza would have been wiped off the map with little to no warning(men, woman, children included).
How can people not see it this way in some respect. Is war not sick and disgusting to such an extent where people like us are arguing semantics when in reality the causal factor of this conflict is rooted in thousands of years of manipulation by hundreds of titantic forces over time? There is no solution. Sad but true.



Behind the U.S Iraq war 2 giant, slow, massacre (mission accomplished) of children and adults hides... U.S right wing christians + far right israeli jews, it is an explosive alliance of international warmongering - to keep control - with religious and political - to keep being reelected - motivations.
It happened with 9/11, watch out why people massively re-elected Bush. And the 7 october Hamas attacks COULD lead to the same, but still not happened yet (regarding the massacre): I would bet that Israeli gov is certainly hesitating, considering the consequences in the long run.
Will Isralis vote for their usual far right gov if the -erradication- of Gaza is a success ?

But let's not forget: You can have easily the same with muslims or even secular, totalitarian, governements. (Ie: Iran or China vs their own people).
There is also the Azerbaidjan vs Armenia, sponsorized by Erdogan and his needs for good old ottoman empire. I hope there will be not invasion of Armenia.

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